Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Yeah, man, baby, I love it. Let's fucking go.
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Are we going? Where?
Oh, no. Not over the relics. The dirtier this table is, the better. Get it away from the... What is that? The relics. That is... That's from my friend John Reeves. He gave that to me. That's a mastodon tooth. Or woolly mammoth, or... What's the difference? What is the difference between a woolly mammoth and a mastodon? They must be a different age. A different era. But that's a giant tooth.
There's a company in Alaska, I forget the name. But it kind of seems fucked to carve into this thing because it is 10,000 years old, at least. How many of them are there, though? Do they have heaps of them? They have heaps of them. But this is really cool. It's like they carved a mammoth in it. So what is the difference?
According to our sponsor, Perplexity, a woolly mammoth and a mastodon were related but quite different. Ice age elephants. Mammoths were taller, more slightly built grass eaters, while mastodons were shorter, stockier browsers that ate woody plants. Okay. I was going to say the hair maybe, but I don't. It's obviously more. Wooly mammoth, right?
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Chapter 2: What is the difference between a woolly mammoth and a mastodon?
Yeah. Mastodon looks like an elephant. Yeah. The mastodon horn does look cooler. They're pretty cool. They're all pretty cool. You know, they lived on an, was it, where were the last mastodons? I want to say they lived on an island. Until like 10,000 years ago or something like that. Because most of them died out. They don't know how they died out, but there's two theories.
One theory is people killed them all, which is a shaky theory because it's people of 10,000 years ago with fucking sticks. Were they around 10,000 years ago? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We definitely did that thing. I don't think so. I think it was a cataclysm. I think it was the same thing that killed 65% of all megafauna. That's the problem. It killed so many different animals almost instantaneously.
Yeah, that's it. 4,000 years ago, Wrangell Island, remote Arctic island off Siberia's coast, had the last woolly mammoths until about 4,000 years ago. Isn't that nuts? That's nothing. That's nuts. Yeah, that's like before the pyramids were built. No, I mean after the pyramids were built, rather.
It's like a similar time.
Yeah, after. Yeah, after the pyramids. Allegedly. I think they were probably built earlier than that. But the official date is 2500 BC.
I've seen that strange man with the beard. Which one? That man you had on to debate it, who's always clapping back on Twitter and going like, there's nothing funny about that. Oh, Flint Devil?
Yeah.
I don't want to invoke his ire. Yeah, he's got a lot of ire. He's got a lot of time and a lot of hate.
I actually enjoyed talking to him about non-archaeal, non-ancient history related stuff. He has some interesting things about seeds. He does a lot of work in seeds. Okay. No, it's actually really interesting how- Like the history of seeds. Yeah. So say if you have a wild plant, they can tell the difference between a wild plant and an agriculturally grown plant. And the way is the seeds change.
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Chapter 3: What are the theories behind the extinction of the mastodon?
I mean, it happens in comedy. There's people that don't like new comedians that are coming up. They don't like what they're doing differently. You said a thing last night about prop comedy. Yeah.
You're like, everyone just stopped doing prop comedy at a certain point. Well, it's because of Carrot Top. It's because of Carrot Top and also because of the bullying you would receive at the moment for having props. There's Rick Glassman. Am I getting his name right? I don't know. But he had some props, and he was really funny, and he got away with it.
But he's the only person in America, other than Carrot Top, I've seen with any props.
Well, when I started out, there was a bunch of guys who had props. There was a bunch of guys who had props, and it was fun. It was fun to watch. There was, God, Dr. Wid? I forget his name. Dr. Wiz? I forget his name. But he was a guy, when I first started out in the 1980s, he had props. And he was good. He was a funny comic.
It'll be cyclical. It'll come back. Like, ladies with ukuleles had to go away for a time. Ha! It was necessary that we purge ukulele women from comedy. How many were there? Oh, my God. I don't know. There was... Is this him?
The legendary Whid? That's it. Legendary Whid. Yeah, that's the dude. And he would do, like, science-based humor. He was a funny guy. So this is, you know, I saw him in like 88, 88, 89. But the point was that guy was really funny when he started busting out the props.
Yeah.
And we were like, I was like, why don't you just do props?
This is your thing.
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Chapter 4: What are the potential impacts of AI on our economic systems?
You can't- I'm fighting it. If you see the asteroid coming, you have to realize you're going to die. There's nothing you can do about it. The Amish have continued very happily with their cars. I don't think it's going to be as disastrous as everybody thinks. I just don't believe that. I think we'll figure it out.
But I think it's going to be a massive upheaval of completely our economic system, our life system, the way we interact. But we have to realize, this is what's really important, the way we interact is really new. The way we live in cities stacked in high rises and driving around in cars, this is a tiny little blip in time that the human race has existed like this.
Before that, we had a totally different thing. And for the longest time, people traded things back and forth.
Chapter 5: How do societal changes affect our interactions and lifestyles?
And they used gold coins and silver coins. And there was no stock market. This whole thing that we're doing right now with automation and you're worried about it's taking jobs, those jobs weren't even a thing in the past. Yeah, we built this giant population based on the fact that jobs would exist or gave people the confidence to procreate, get married and have kids. We'll find another way.
We'll have to. People will have to. It's not going to be pretty, but it's just like everything else that happens. It's this massive change in society and culture. We're going to have to adapt. I'm in flight mode on it. I want to be on an acreage. You get nervous when I play AI music in the green room. I do.
When I go, this is good. And you go, AI!
And I go, ah! Yeah, you love that country one I played the other day. That was good, right?
The 50 Cent stuff is fantastic.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of automation on job security?
My favorite remains the Japanese cover of Oasis. Have you heard Japanese Oasis? No, I have not. If you type in Japanese Wonderwall, I like it a lot.
Can we play it? Can we play it, Jamie? Or would it be an issue? We've got to cut it out. We'd have to cut it out? I don't think anyone owns the rights to Japanese. They might. Somebody probably does. The people who wrote the song Wonderwall do. Really? That's how that works. The performance of this would be a different situation.
I can do it now. I can do it. You're getting a lot of trouble.
Let's hear it. Wonderwall Oasis cover Japanese Enka is the title on YouTube. This is the right one? I'm open? Yeah, this is it. It says New Wave Films is the page. Oh, you have a problem. I love this. Stop this. I love that. Stop this. You're a sick man. Why do you like that?
Why do you like that?
Because it's the...
the funniest voice of all time but it's weird it's not a real person and it looks like an old video so they've cut up an old video and put it over the AI music oh that's what they did but if you look very closely you can find the original music and she's singing some folk song about a sad man oh I thought it was like AI generated video because you could do that you know I just I want to retreat from it I want to be on a farm I want to have chicken
But this is also not like a serious way to build a society. I'm shocked that no one's blowing up the servers. Like when they invented the loom, people in Britain were like, we will destroy all of the looms. No one is like... upset now that robots can think?
Well, they don't know what to do, right? And it feels inevitable because it is. No one's going to stop it, and if they did stop it, no one would listen. And if we did listen, the problem is China's not going to listen. And it's a Manhattan Project kind of race.
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Chapter 7: What happened when the speaker met someone at the inauguration?
I ran into him at the inauguration. He was wearing a Carhartt hoodie and shorts. Wow. At the inauguration. I'm not bullshitting. I gave him a big hug. He's a sweet guy, like a genuinely sweet guy. And I think he got into that system and he's like, hey, this is not what I, like, that guy's been doing like charity work his whole life. Yeah. He's like a genuinely good person.
And he got into it and he's like, this is not what I signed up for. This is, this whole thing is fucking crazy. Like,
He also had the brain thing happen. Had a stroke. I watched that debate that he won. I don't know how bad. Is it Dr. Oz that he was up against? Yes. That's got to hurt when you go up against a guy who temporarily can't talk at all.
Chapter 8: How does the discussion shift to the challenges faced by public figures?
Yeah. Well, he has a struggle communicating, but I don't think the struggle... It's way better now. Yes. But I don't think the struggle is a thinking thing. I think it's a communication thing. And it's also like he loses track of what you just said. So like he has to have an iPad. So the iPad listens to what you're saying, translates it, writes it out, dictates it.
And then he looks to it occasionally. He's like, I'm sorry, what did you ask me? And then I'll have to repeat the question. But it's not that he's not there. It's just there's a misfiring. But when it fires correctly, he's very reasonable. He's very rational, very smart guy. And I think a really good guy. And I think he opened up a lot of people's eyes like, well, it is possible for someone to,
And get in on either side and just be rational and just have rational positions on things and saying, I'm not going to just vote the way everybody votes because I don't agree with that. I think there's a much more nuanced view of the world. So a lot of people on the right like him because he broke party lines.
I remember Obama came in and tried to do that immediately when he was a senator. And I was reading a thing about how people just took him aside and said, you absolutely don't fucking do that. You have to stop doing that now, okay? We want you to be the future of this party. Shut up. But there must be huge pressures on people not to be individuals there.
There was huge pressures on Tulsi Gabbard to not even communicate with people on the other side. She was like, bring them cookies and shit and just be nice. She's a sweet lady. She just wanted to be friends with everybody. And they were like, we don't do it that way.
I mean, John McCain seemed to do a lot of weird... He would hang out. He would be on both sides of the aisle. People liked him. There are a couple of individuals...
Yeah, there's a couple individuals that have made little crossovers a little bit. You could ban the party system.
I'd be open to that.
Well, you need more than two. That's the real problem. The real problem is there's only two legitimate ones. If you vote libertarian, you're essentially voting protest. You're saying, fuck these guys. And the Green Party. I've done the libertarian thing a few times. It's like, you're just saying, fuck these guys. But then- A two-party system is so easy to rig.
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