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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2498 - Brendan Schaub

13 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

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Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Hey, what's up, brother? What's up, man? Good to see you. What's going on? This is a good time for you to come in, man, right after this weekend. Holy shit. Pretty good timing, brother. I mean, everybody's talking about the Sean Strickland-Hamsa fight and the debate, but before we even talk about that, bro, How fucking good is Joshua Vann?

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32.083 - 47.143 Brendan Schaub

And he's only been fighting about five years. That's what's scary. Crazy good. Five years. Crazy good. And he has some holes, for sure, that certain guys are going to expose. He's not the best on the ground. He's also 24.

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He's 24.

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Chapter 2: How is Joshua Vann's fighting ability evaluated?

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Yeah. Crazy athlete. But his fucking boxing... It might be the best in the UFC. It's up there. It's up there. Him or Ilya. Yeah. Well, Ilya. The thing about Ilya is Ilya is one punch, night-night. That's the difference. It's tough at flyweight to be a knockout artist. But then also Josh. David Davison, Figueredo.

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67.977 - 86.585 Brendan Schaub

True. True. He was starching people. He was. But with Josh too, again, he's 24. But in Tutsi or Tyra, he also just was blocking punches with his face. That's the other thing. His defense was so bad. I think it was that Joshua Vann's offense was so good. You know what?

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I think it's a combo of both. Yeah, it's a combo of both. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because Tyra is primarily a grappler. I mean, he's obviously a mixed martial arts fighter. And he did strike. I mean, that's why he didn't completely get blown out of the water. He did strike pretty well. It's just the counters came so clean. So sharp.

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Like I rewatched some of it today and I was like, good Lord, that's pretty. So good. He looks so good. And again, 2024. And, you know, it took all the stink off of the way he won the title.

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Yeah, but not me, I'm sure not you, but there's a lot of questions that haven't been answered. Oh, for sure. Because Pantoja's a motherfucker. Pantoja's a straight up assassin. Okay, how would he do against Pantoja?

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Hey, man, his stock went up after this fight, I'll tell you that. Look, it was always up, right? But Tyra was a real threat. Tyra got him on the ground, wasn't able to submit him. Joshua Vange pieced him up on the feet, man.

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But again, at 24, so let's say they do the Pantoja rematch, whatever, Q4, and let's say Pantoja gets that win. All good? He's 24. Right. He's going to be your champ for a very long time. And how old is Alexandre Pantoja at this point? Not young. In flyweight years, he's 67. Yeah.

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Yeah, flyweight's tough.

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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Sean Strickland-Hamsa fight?

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He had the sting, right?

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And he changed it into that Japanese mask. Yeah. I like this. The new one looks dope. The new one looks dope.

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It's so dope. I like to think I'm the one that kind of bullied him into doing that because it's all I ever talked about for like six years when he fought. And he comes out with just this dope-ass samurai tattoo.

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I'm like, yeah, there it is. Well, sometimes you realize, like, this ain't making it. I got to fix this.

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Yeah, especially that. People are like, bro, why do you have a fucking stingray on your back?

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Bro, speaking of tattoos, how many tattoos does Sean Brady have? That motherfucker's feet are tattooed.

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Bro.

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Like, his entire body's tattooed. How good did he look? Phenomenal.

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Phenomenal. I always get stressed out because everyone's asking for betting picks before the fights. MMA's tough, dude. MMA's tough to fucking pick. So with the Joaquin Buckley fight, the reason I told my brother, I'm like, literally, put your mortgage on Sean Brady. Because Joaquin Buckley did an interview like a week before. He's like, I'm not even working on grappling.

Chapter 4: What insights are shared about the UFC and fighter compensation?

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World Series of Fighting Games.

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That's what it was, right. Yeah, that's right.

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3423.64 - 3441.488 Brendan Schaub

That's exactly what he should be doing. And that's exactly what he should have done. And then for Patty, it was a sloppy fight, but he got the job done. But you can tell, like, and it's all good. This isn't a knock on Justin. All the years, all the wars, one of the greatest careers we've ever seen. It catches up with you. 100%. It has to. And now here's Ilya Toporia.

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But again, I bet Justin wouldn't have it any other way. You have an opportunity to pull off one of the biggest, if not the biggest upset we've ever seen at the fucking White House.

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Justin has an awesome series, The Art of Violence, I think it's called. It's on YouTube. And it's all talking about him preparing. It's all videos of him training. And Trevor Whitman's in it. And Trevor was saying, we love being the underdog. We love it. And he talked about being the underdog with Rose Namajunas when she beat Joanna Jacek. Sure. When she beat Yong Wei Lee. Same thing.

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Like, they love being the underdog in those situations. Like, stopping Wei Lee was nuts. Crazy. You know, that she was the underdog, head kicks her. Yep. Crazy.

3484.241 - 3486.784 Brendan Schaub

And that. This is a little different, but I hear you. It is different. It's different.

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It's different. But it's similar in ways that Zhang Weili is. Because Zhang Weili is fucking everybody up. Scary. There's no one like her. The physicality of her at strawweight, she was a fucking monster. Her training was bananas. Crazy. I'd watch her training. I'd go, good Lord. Who's going to beat her? Her shoulders and shit. But the way she trains, she trains like a dude.

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Yeah.

Chapter 5: How do social media and streaming impact the perception of fighters?

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Like an angry dude. You know what I mean? That's a haircut to show. And it's not a knock on the way women train. I'm not saying that. I'm saying the ferocity was like she's filled with testosterone. Like she's trying to kill somebody. She probably is, Joe. She might be. It might be natural. It might have slipped something into her noodles.

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Did you see that one fighter who got busted? And she goes, oh, man, I took my husband's vitamins to just have these steroids. Yeah, my husband. She threw her husband under the bus for taking steroids. He fucked up. Is he an active fighter? I don't think so. Is he? No, he's probably just some meathead. And he's like, yeah. I guess this works. I hope so.

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Yeah, me too. Because if he's an active fighter, he'd be like, what the fuck?

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3557.058 - 3558.742 Brendan Schaub

Now we're both fucked. Yeah. Yeah.

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Say somebody gave you the wrong thing.

3560.627 - 3567.747 Brendan Schaub

Yeah. Jesus Christ. But back to Whaley and Rose, the difference with that is Rose was still pretty inner prime there.

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Yes, 100%. That's a good point. That's a good point. Real good point. Justin's not in his prime, but damn, he didn't look like he lost a step in the Patty Pimblitt fight. He looked like he was just being an animal. And Pimblitt's fucking good, man. You see what Pimblitt did to Bobby Green? Granted, Bobby Green's not quite at the same level, although he looked fucking sensational. You look good.

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Against Jeremy Stevens. He just keeps doing the damn thing. But also, that style is so fun. Talking shit, pointing at you.

3596.546 - 3598.268 Brendan Schaub

He's fun, man. So fun. He's one of my faves.

Chapter 6: What parallels are drawn between smoking trends and digital addiction?

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So fun. How about at the end of the fight, when I'm interviewing him, he's like, come walk with me. And he takes me over to Dana. He's like, yo, Dana. Yeah, he wants that bonus. They've never given him a bonus. He was just talking about how he's one of the most exciting fighters that's ever done it.

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He's awesome.

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I'm like, everybody knows that. He's like, well, I didn't get my fucking bonus.

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3614.271 - 3635.418 Brendan Schaub

Yeah. But I'm kind of with Dana on the bonus. Dana goes, well, we do it also your strength of your opponent. Zell Huber was good, dude. He beat Zell Huber in his last fight and stopped him. Bad ass fight. He should have got up on it. He should have got up for that one. That's what he was talking about. Well, but for this last fight. Right. For his last fight, you know, he fought Jeremy Stevens.

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3635.818 - 3642.688 Brendan Schaub

Great fight. Great fighter. But, you know, compared to like the other guys on the card. Yeah. That's why Dana's like, well.

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No, but he was complaining about not getting a bonus in his last fight. That's why he wanted a bonus in this fight. He was saying, because I even asked him, I go, you didn't get a bonus for the Zell Huber fight?

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He got 25K, right? Didn't they change the rules? If you get a finish, no matter what, but he wanted the big boy bonus. The big boy bonus.

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Yeah. I hate all of it. I hate people that have to ask for bonuses. It's awkward. Look, the money is there, right? We know the money's there. This is a $7 billion deal. I'm not a businessman. I'll say that right now. If I was running the UFC, the stockholders, they would fucking kick me out. The shareholders would have me fired. I run that bitch like affliction. Yeah, you don't want that.

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You don't want me running the UFC because I treat it like I was a communist.

Chapter 7: What are the benefits of driving a manual transmission car?

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It's not like I'm taking it to the track. Who am I doing this for?

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Well, a Hennessey has 1,000, and you can drive it everywhere.

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6721.168 - 6722.27 Brendan Schaub

Yeah, that's probably the way to do it.

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Hennessey TRX or a Hennessey Raptor.

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I almost bought one of those, and then I got that AV Ram, and I linked up with Diesel R, and we're doing a Randy's transmission. I got a freaking stealth bigger turbo on there, fast fuel system. Oh, bro. Let me get my pants off. Oh, yeah, I don't know if you're into that stuff, but I'm picking it up today. It's finally done, dude. Ooh, that sounds fun. Oh, dude, I can't fucking wait.

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That sounds fun.

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Yeah. So the idea is you're just driving around, going to different places, having people do different things with cars. Yeah. Check out what people are doing, different mods they're doing.

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Yeah. And it's like that old school car shows that we grew up on.

Chapter 8: How do modern cars impact driving experiences?

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You'll throw up facts about Porsches or about the car. It'll just pop up with that stuff. And that's like our boys. Gordon Ryan was on there with his TRX. Oh, nice. He has like 120,000 miles on it. Does he really? Dude, that thing's so busted up, but he just drives it every day. He off-roads it.

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He just, we go in his car, I'm like, dude, I said, you know, Gordon, I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell everybody when I get in the car with him. I know it's for TV. I don't need you to show off. Nobody's trying to get hurt. He's like, I got you, man. And was just fucking ripping this thing, dude. I'm like, I flipped one of these things, man. It ain't fun, bud. It ain't fun.

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But it's, yeah, just shit we like, you know? And this one was like, you want to do a TV show with him? I'm like, yeah, let's ride, man.

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It's interesting how much that's a male thing. There are women that are into cars, but I don't know any women. I mean, I'm sure they're out there, but I don't know any women that are into cars the way we're into cars. No. No. Some of them, some of them like cars. They're into some. But like for me, it's like that is one of the one things about having some money that is worth it.

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Like I always tell people, having a nice house is great. It is great. There's definitely nothing wrong with having a nice house. But after a while, it just becomes your house. Yes. And if you're in a humble house that has a nice kitchen and a big TV and a couch and a nice bed to sleep on, you're set. You're kind of sad. Yeah.

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Like, the difference in the way you feel when you're home versus a nice house is not much different. Okay. The difference in driving a nice car is, like, you are taking a ride to work. You are at Disneyland. Yes. You would wait in line to get in that car. And you're boom, boom. And you're fucking shifting your own gears. And boom, boom. Woo! It's fun. It's fun.

6867.266 - 6882.583 Brendan Schaub

It's excitement. And the shit you have, dude, I live through you because, you know, obviously we're in different tax brackets. You know, I got to do my thing on Facebook Marketplace and shit. I picked up tires the other day. He goes, holy shit, Brendan Shaw buys tires on Facebook Marketplace? I go, yeah, dude. Who doesn't want a fucking deal, man? Put those in the back for me, dude.

6882.983 - 6892.273 Brendan Schaub

But, yeah, you got one of those Porsche. I think it's your Gunther Porsche. Yes. And you took a picture. You're like, dude, I'll just sit in my garage and stare at it. I'm like, dude, I've never...

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I do. I stare at it sometimes. I sit in the garage and look at it.

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