#2553 - Andrew Huberman
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What is the story behind Andrew Huberman’s new book and how did it evolve?
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hello, Andrew. Great to see you again, my friend. What a thick ass book you wrote, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Figure it doubles as a doorstop or a weapon. Yeah, it's um it's designed to be read front to back. Learn a lot of science, a lot of health protocols, but you can also just decide I wanna get better at managing stress, go straight to that chapter, look up what you wanna do, say, Oh, I already do that, go to the next thing. And use it sort of like a a manual. This is a very ambitious undertaking.
It took me Just shy of s eight years. The operating manual or N operating manual for the human body. That's a lot. Like just sitting down there and You know, in front of the computer thinking, I'm gonna write an operating manual for the human body.
Well it didn't start off like that. At first it was a book about the autonomic nervous system, stress, sleep, focus. Then it evolved. Then I had a third completely new rewrite and my good friend now, I'm honored to call him a friend, but he's just such a good dude, Rick Rubin, was like, Do you like it? I was like, uh and he goes, scrape it. I'm like, what? And then he said, I'm gonna get myself in trouble. He just goes, Scrape it, man. Like what are you doing? And I said, I don't know.
How did the conversation shift to Rick Rubin’s influence and anecdotes?
He's like, you have to love it. And then he said, uh They're gonna push you to release this thing. I said I already said I was gonna release it. I did I did it again and then I did that again. And I was going to visit him in Europe each summer and we'd sit together and he he goes, Let's read some stuff together. But with Rick what that means is you sit there and he reads you and how you're reacting to the material. So we barely read any of it. I was just talking about and he goes, It's not ready. I go what do you mean he goes it's not ready? You're not ready. And so then this year Finally. But this book, I mean, we were in Europe this summer. for a friend's wedding and my team was over there and my girlfriend and I were traveling.
She was so understanding. But from I was doing edits from like nine PM until two thirty in the morning, every single night, and waking up the next morning. Like this book has been While you were on vacation? quote unquote vacation. Yeah. I owe her a real real vacation now. She was working too, but she was asleep in those hours. And we stopped by Rick's. He's like, How's it going? And I'm like, It's there And he's like he just like checked in. He's like It's there. Like he can just feel it. He he has this supernatural ability to feel where people are at, but not get absorbed in it. I have so many Rick stories. We could spend the whole time talking about Rick stories, but the the man is just like he's plugged into some energetic layer that the rest of us aren't.
And he's all day, every day, he's connecting with people and and trying to help them. Like he really spends most of his time like looking out at the world and trying to help people with their with their art.
with their stuff and I'm That's really him. If you know him, that's him twenty four seven. Totally he lives in that space. It's a very weird headspace to be in because you're constantly like looking at other people's stuff. It's like he's a taste maker, you know, or that's not even a good description of him. He's just like an analysis of art. Like that's his his his function. He anal analyzes art but from like For lack of a better term, almost like a spiritual perspective. Like he sees whether it's real. Totally. He finds the realness and like we made the Red Hot Chili Peppers record one of their albums in a mansion 'cause he wanted to hear like instead of a recording studio, he wanted to hear like the sounds of the house.
That's so rick. There's a
What are the key points about psychedelics, MDMA trials, and schizophrenia discussed?
There's
a you know, uh I I didn't come here to plug this, but we should 'cause it's gonna be awesome 'cause I I may have seen pieces of it. He has this documentary with Jay Z coming out like next week. Where they sit in this incredible Monument. structure in Europe and they just listen to music together and talk about music and it's so good.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the story behind Andrew Huberman’s new book and how did it evolve?
0:04–1:29
2
How did the conversation shift to Rick Rubin’s influence and anecdotes?
1:29–3:46
3
What are the key points about psychedelics, MDMA trials, and schizophrenia discussed?
3:46–17:44
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How does the dialogue move to stress‑management tools like ice baths, sleep, and the role of dogs?
17:44–1:19:33
5
What lessons did Andrew learn from boxing and sparring?
1:19:33–1:40:43
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How does cortisol timing affect stress and sleep?
1:40:43–2:00:35
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What are the genetics and biology behind nicotine, caffeine, and kratom addiction?
2:00:35–2:22:50
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How are peptides, AI, and new medical technologies reshaping health care?
2:22:50–2:39:44