519. If Another Country Did This to Our Citizens, It Would Be War | Vani Hari
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People are fat and diabetic at rates that are criminal.
38%.
38%. I don't think I ever recovered from reading about the fact that marketing people built the food pyramid, right? Not scientists. How the hell did we get there?
There's this revolving door of people who are working for chemical and food corporations and then going to serve in government to kind of uphold their interests.
Tell me what you know about the tobacco company's purchase of the food industry. So I've been dragged kicking and screaming into the issue of nutrition, I would say. And some of that's for personal reasons, and some of it is for intellectual reasons, let's say. I had reason in my own family to look at nutrition very carefully, because it turned out that my daughter, who had a very serious illness, Michaela, was reactive to a very large range of foods. And that was rather a shock to discover, you might say. And I've been experimenting with diet for quite a long time in a radical way, far more radically than I like. That's the first thing. And then I would have ever expected to do. And that's had some pretty positive consequences. And I've heard from many thousands of people positive tales about the consequence of their shift in diet. And I've interviewed people like Chris Palmer who's a psychiatrist at Harvard who's been using dietary manipulations to treat intractable psychological disorders.
And I know that people are fat and diabetic at rates that are criminal. And so even though This isn't something I ever hoped I would be interested in, even that's become necessary. Now, I went to Washington a while back at the invitation of Ron Johnson to partake in a hearing there. And I met Vani Hari at that. roundtable at that discussion. And I had a chance to talk to her today. She's the food babe. And she has a large following and is very interested in the pathologization of the American food system. And for personal reasons, as well as professional reasons, let's say, some of which are akin to the issues that my daughter faced. And so she came in today. And we had a chance to talk about, well, the hearing that we participated in jointly.
And then we talked about her career, how she moved from consultant to food activist and rekindled that more recently at this hearing. And we walked through a discussion of the major problems that beset the American family, let's say, especially children. Children and mothers, I would say, probably are most effective, although men are not far behind for obvious reasons. We had a chance to walk through all that and to start to puzzle out, well, the nature of the problem. tremendous rise in obesity, tremendous rise in diabetes, catastrophic consequences of the transformation of our food supply. And we talked about that and we talked about what might be done about it. And especially given the radical transformations that are upcoming in the new Trump administration and its surprising synergy with this Make America Healthy Again movement. So if you don't want to be fat and stupid and diabetic, This is not a bad podcast to listen to. So, Vanny, we met in D.C.
That's right.
Yeah, so why don't you talk about that event a bit and how you got invited and what you thought of it and why you were there. Just tell the story.
Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, I've been a food activist for many years, for over 10 years. And I... have been wanting to hold American food companies accountable for using ingredients that are banned or heavily regulated in other countries for a long time. I think it's disgraceful. I think it's unethical. I think it is hypocritical. I think it's immoral that an American food company can serve a better, safer version of their product for another country and not their own citizens and how when they find out they can make a product that's safe, they don't do it for all of their customers. And so I've been working on this issue for a long time through petitions, through campaigns to get food companies to change because government regulators have been asleep at the wheel. They haven't held these food companies accountable. The conflicts of interest are riddled in the government that prevent them from enacting anything that would be helpful to safeguard ourselves from these chemicals.
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