544. When the Right Goes Too Far | Dr. James Lindsay
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What is the woke right and why is it controversial?
It's troublesome for those with a conservative bent to throw away the idea of institutional legitimacy. The only possible antidote to really unrestrained investigation. The idea seems to be something like the The more radical the revolutionary precept, the more likely something Luciferian is behind it.
So now we're talking at a very abstract, I think metaphysical is the right word, level for what represents woke. This isn't going to be recognizable to your average Joe on the street who's dealing with a pride parade.
Yeah, and they are called pride parades.
They are called pride parades.
And the cardinal sin of Lucifer is pride. Hello, everybody. My guest today is James Lindsay, who's been a commentator on cultural affairs for a good 10 years, I suppose longer than that, but being well-known for that long. He was one of the people, along with Helen Pluckrose and others, who published a sequence of papers in radical journals that were... not genuine, let's put it that way. And that was very scandalous. It was part of an attempt to expose the pathology that had set into certain aspects of the academic institutions. And it's become much more widespread now. James has got himself in trouble in recent months, once again, for popularizing the phrase woke right by accusing students
or pointing out, depending on your perspective, the fact that various members of the so-called right are engaging in shenanigans that are very much reminiscent of those that characterize the radical left. And so that's what we talk about today, the nature of the woke right. I discuss the overlap between such behavior and classification of psychopathology with James, the relationship between woke behavior, mobbing, extreme perspectives, self-victimization, protest, gaming the system, and cluster B psychopathology, narcissism, histrionic behavior, borderline, antisocial, and the dark tetrad. And we... We attempted to determine how our views align and how they differ.
How does the woke right display similarities to the radical left?
And well, it's a walk through the dark side of ideology. So join us for that. Nice to see you, Dr. Lindsay.
It's good to see you, Dr. Peter.
It's been two years, eh?
It's been two years.
Yeah. So what are you in trouble for now?
The woke, right?
Lay it out, man.
It's a fraught term, right? People see it as paradoxical because you have woke, which they associate with left. You have right, which they associate obviously with the right. And so now you've got a paradox. And so I've caused myself some trouble by calling a radical segment, not the whole right, a radical segment of the right, woke right, which I kind of started doing, I guess, Last fall, September, I started using it before the term. I didn't invent the term. A lot of people accused me of inventing the term or credit me with it. This term has been in rough circulation floating around in the Internet space for at least since middle of 22. So it's not a brand new term. I just adopted it and went hard about it.
The simplest explanation I give people for, well, what do you mean by woke right? How does that make sense? I say, well, it's woke people who call themselves conservatives. Some of them don't though. They call themselves right-wing. And they distinguish that conservatives and right-wing are different, but it's woke people. So the whole suite of behaviors, beliefs, even the deep metaphysical constructs underneath those beliefs. And as you recently pointed out, I think the psychology that generates those beneath all of that, the cluster B personality disorders are presenting and the psychopathologies, psychopathy itself sometimes, all of that kind of feeds upward into this concept of woke, which I think we can talk pretty fruitfully about. But I don't believe it can only be presented through left-wing causes. You can present it in terms of right-wing causes or religious causes or other causes because it's the pathological expression of an ideology or of a belief structure that ultimately is woke. And so this term, It's confused people.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the woke right and why is it controversial?
0:11–2:50
2
How does the woke right display similarities to the radical left?
2:50–31:15
3
What is the significance of cluster B personality disorders?
31:15–39:38
4
How does social media influence ideological behaviors?
39:38–1:35:34
5
How do historical ideologies connect to modern movements?
50:57–1:35:34