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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1145: Rwanda 2025 | Out of the Loop

27 Apr 2025

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On this Out of the Loop, Nathan Paul Southern and Lindsey Kennedy explain the consumer decisions and corporate interests fueling conflict in Rwanda.Welcome to what we're calling our "Out of the Loop" episodes, where we dig a little deeper into fascinating current events that may only register as a blip on the media's news cycle and have conversations with the people who find themselves immersed in them. Investigative journalists Nathan Paul Southern and Lindsey Kennedy are here to help us understand why we're hearing a lot about Rwanda in recent news.Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1145On This Episode of Out of the Loop, We Discuss:The M23 militia has recently resurged in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), taking over parts of North Kivu province and effectively controlling access to valuable mineral resources like cobalt, gold, and coltan — minerals critical for modern technology including electric vehicles and AI chips.There appears to be a connection between the UK's Rwanda refugee resettlement program (which sent hundreds of millions of pounds to Rwanda) and the reemergence of the M23, which had previously disappeared when international aid was threatened to be cut off. The timing suggests the UK money may have indirectly funded the militia.Rwanda is allegedly stealing minerals from the DRC, bringing them across the border, and claiming they were mined in Rwanda — creating the appearance of "conflict-free" minerals that major tech companies like Apple and Tesla can claim to use, even though they ultimately come from conflict zones.The conflict has become increasingly complicated with the involvement of private military contractors from various countries, Russian interests, and American billionaires like Elon Musk and Eric Prince potentially making deals to control mineral resources in the region.Understanding these complex global connections can empower us to make more ethical consumer choices. By researching which companies prioritize truly ethical sourcing and supporting organizations that monitor conflict minerals, we can use our purchasing power to encourage corporate responsibility and transparency in global supply chains for technologies we rely on daily.And much more!Connect with Jordan on Twitter, on Instagram, and on YouTube. If you have something you'd like us to tackle here on an Out of the Loop episode, drop Jordan a line at [email protected] and let him know!Connect with Nathan Paul Southern on Twitter.Connect with Lindsey Kennedy at her website and on Twitter.And if you're still game to support us, please leave a review here — even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally!This Episode Is Brought To You By Our Fine Sponsors: jordanharbinger.com/dealsSign up for Six-Minute Networking — our free networking and relationship development mini course — at jordanharbinger.com/course!Subscribe to our once-a-week Wee Bit Wiser newsletter today and start filling your Wednesdays with wisdom!Do you even Reddit, bro? Join us at r/JordanHarbinger!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0.009 - 4.031 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

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4.492 - 11.936 Jordan Harbinger

Die Plattform, die wir vor Shopify verwendet haben, hat regelmäßig Updates gebraucht, die teilweise dazu geführt haben, dass der Shop nicht funktioniert hat.

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11.976 - 22.983 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

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23.023 - 27.886 Unknown

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33.66 - 85.245 Jordan Harbinger

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you. Vielen Dank. Heute ein Out-of-the-Loop-Episode mit unseren Freunden Nathan Paul Southern und Lindsey Kennedy.

85.305 - 98.51 Jordan Harbinger

Sie waren vor ein paar Jahren auf dem Weg, die Scam-Call-Centers zu öffnen und wie viele von ihnen tatsächlich von Menschen-Traffikern und Slaven-Labor verwendet werden. Also all diese Scam-Calls, Scam-Texte, die Sie bekommen, sind oft von Leuten, die gegen ihre Willen gehalten werden.

98.57 - 117.465 Jordan Harbinger

Und heute machen wir ein Update auf die Cyber-Slavery-Ding, Menschen, die in diese Scam-Call-Centers verhaftet werden. Also die Verbindung zwischen Cyberslaverie, Nordkorea, Yakuza, Triads und anderen organisierten Kriminellengruppen, sowie Scam-Call-Zentren, plus ein Update, was in Rwanda und Kongo passiert. Überraschend ist, dass sie tatsächlich in manchen Fällen verbunden sind.

117.505 - 142.484 Jordan Harbinger

Kongo und Rwanda kämpfen tatsächlich über die Kontrolle von Mineral-Ressourcen mit der Hilfe von Russland, USA und anderen fremden privaten Militärunternehmen. Das ist aber ein unglaublich neuer Level von Konflikt. Every time I talk to you guys, it's a weird time over there. And yes, there's time zone stuff, but I just get the idea that your city Phnom Penh in Cambodia is just 24 hour operation.

142.524 - 143.145 Jordan Harbinger

Is that accurate?

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