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The Mysterious Fees Inflating Your Grocery Bill

Mon, 18 Nov 2024

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Grocery bills are going up for a lot of reasons. One has to do with how food gets on grocery store shelves. WSJ’s Jesse Newman explains a hidden layer of fees that are getting passed down to the consumer.  Further Reading: - The Mysterious Fees Inflating Your Grocery Bill  - After Years of Raising Prices, Food Companies Hit Consumers’ Limits  Further Listening: - The Twinkie: From Bankruptcy to Billions  - Food Fight: PepsiCo vs. Carrefour  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the hidden fees inflating grocery bills?

5.552 - 12.093 Jesse Newman

More than a decade ago, Kyle Kaler was working in finance in New York City and trying to live healthier.

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12.834 - 23.997 Kyle Kaler

I took a lot of things out of my diet, you know, grains, wheat, corn, soy, like all of these things. I took a lot of processed foods out of my diet and couldn't find a whole lot on store shelves that tasted really good as well.

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24.917 - 28.778 Jesse Newman

So Kyle tried to solve this problem in his own kitchen.

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29.361 - 36.044 Kyle Kaler

And so, yeah, threw all these dried fruits and nuts and seeds in like a food processor and like blended it together and just ate it like that for a snack.

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36.825 - 58.176 Jesse Newman

This snack became life-changing for Kyle. He moved to San Antonio, Texas and started a food company. He named it Wild Way Foods and began selling his granola at farmer's markets. And after sales went well, Kyle thought about going bigger. So he headed to the biggest health food store he could think of.

Chapter 2: How did Kyle Kaler start his food company?

60.893 - 77.378 Kyle Kaler

I just walked into Whole Foods Markets headquarters in Austin with this product in a bag and was like, hey, I have a product that I think would sell well on your shelves. And, you know, there was a woman at like the front desk that was like, well, do you have an appointment or like anything? And I was like, no, I just I think this would sell well in your stores.

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77.858 - 91.4 Kyle Kaler

And she looked at me like I was a little crazy and was like, OK, we'll give it to me and I'll give it to the buyer. A few days later, got an email from the cereal buyer and said, hey, I got your product and I think this is great. Let's talk about if you guys want to be on shelves.

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93.021 - 110.229 Jesse Newman

Kyle's granola was going to be on Whole Foods shelves. But to make that happen, Kyle had to start working with a distributor. Distributors are companies that buy, store, and transport millions of products to grocery stores.

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111.405 - 119.827 Kyle Kaler

At that point, now the work begins for us to set up the relationship with the distributor. So we sell to the distributor. The distributor then sells to the retailer.

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123.508 - 142.916 Jesse Newman

But the relationship with distributors is complicated and full of all kinds of obscure costs. Kyle says these charges erode his profits. And to stay afloat, he says he has to pass those costs onto consumers in the form of higher prices.

Chapter 3: What role do distributors play in grocery pricing?

144.337 - 157.211 Kyle Kaler

And, you know, we recently raised prices last year for the first time in, gosh, six or seven years. And we're not making any more money off of that price increase at all. So, yeah, we have to raise prices or else we'll just never survive.

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159.929 - 196.764 Jesse Newman

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Leinbaugh. It's Monday, November 18th. Coming up on the show, the hidden costs inflating your grocery bill. There's something that people have been feeling a lot recently.

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201.071 - 201.051 Advertisement Speaker

$70?

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201.371 - 218.884 Advertisement Speaker

And I didn't even get that much. I don't even understand. I literally, I literally don't understand. $41 on three items at a small town grocery store. So you're supposed to spend $300 to $400 to $500 a week just to feed your family now?

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219.024 - 225.59 Advertisement Speaker

I think if you go to any grocery store right now, the inflation and just the price of everything is just exorbitant.

228.243 - 244.151 Advertisement Speaker

I have a family of four, and it's just been wild to watch the bill rack up, you know, in the past couple of years. It feels like a major investment every time we go to the grocery store these days.

245.091 - 270.65 Jesse Newman

That's our colleague, Jessie Newman, who covers food. Jessie's been looking into why her bills have been racking up. One big reason is higher costs for things like raw materials, transportation, and labor. But Jesse says there's another factor that's behind the scenes and is tied to distributors, those companies that bring food products from manufacturers to grocery stores.

271.411 - 288.17 Advertisement Speaker

They are bringing in thousands and thousands and thousands of products from thousands of different manufacturers, big and small. And they are then curating a truckload of all of these different products to bring to a grocery store.

289.096 - 304.108 Jesse Newman

This makes sense to me. Like you can't have like a conga line of, you know, bread makers and yogurt makers and crazen makers outside a grocery store delivering their bags. Those go to distributors.

Chapter 4: Why are small brands struggling with distributor fees?

318.595 - 338.779 Jesse Newman

These distributors are national companies. Their names are like alphabet soup. There's UNFI, CNS, and KEHE, or KEHE. Small brands say these companies are like gatekeepers to the grocery store, and they hold a lot of power.

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340.191 - 369.703 Advertisement Speaker

And it's this part of the supply chain that happens to be characterized by these really sort of Byzantine rules and conventions that involve fees and charges, and they can really rack up. And so this is this other piece of the inflation story that is particularly the case for a lot of the smaller brands that you might be putting in your grocery cart.

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371.247 - 401.086 Advertisement Speaker

And where the rub is, is that sometime in the future, you're going to receive a payment from your distributor. And there will be dozens and often dozens and dozens of deductions that are taken off. And these are just sort of like a long string of numbers, you know, that are attached to your check stub. And they will be minus numbers. And this is where a lot of the tension and conflict comes in.

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404.347 - 423.217 Jesse Newman

Kyle Kaler, who owns the granola company, has felt that tension and conflict. His company, Wildway Foods, now sells its products to over a thousand grocery stores around the country. And that means Kyle is working with distributors a lot. What is that relationship like?

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428.378 - 448.582 Kyle Kaler

That's a great question, and I'm trying to be really careful about what I say and how I say it. Yeah, it is fun. Complex? It can be complex, yes.

449.562 - 450.602 Jesse Newman

Where is the complexity?

451.314 - 466.66 Kyle Kaler

You know, you would think it would be as simple as, you know, distributor buys my product, and then once they buy it, you know, it's their responsibility, and then it's their responsibility to sell it, right? But the reality is that it's not as black and white at all as it would seem.

467.42 - 477.544 Jesse Newman

Kyle says that sometimes when he's supposed to get his payment from a distributor, there have been so many deductions that he's the one who owes the distributor money.

478.368 - 485.154 Kyle Kaler

So most distributors have a guaranteed sale clause where I am guaranteed to the distributor that the product that they buy from me will get sold.

Chapter 5: What challenges do grocery store suppliers face?

486.455 - 495.743 Kyle Kaler

And if it doesn't, the cost comes back to me. Either I have to buy it back or I have to discount it to get rid of it. Or maybe it expires and I have to pay for it to, you know, get thrown away.

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495.763 - 499.106 Jesse Newman

That seems risky and potentially costly.

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499.826 - 501.428 Kyle Kaler

Very risky and very costly, yes.

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502.438 - 507.502 Jesse Newman

Kyle says when there are other problems, he can get charged fees upon fees.

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508.262 - 527.717 Kyle Kaler

So, you know, this was a few weeks ago. We had an invoice that had a $2 charge from a retailer. And the distributor tacked on a $40 administration fee on top of that $2 fee. And so individually, $40, not so much, but repetitively done over and over again, adds up to a lot.

528.798 - 531.981 Jesse Newman

So you just have to have a big accounting department?

532.594 - 548.303 Kyle Kaler

Yeah. So we have somebody that works with us and their sole job that they do for us is to look at all of the chargebacks and fees that we get charged on the distribution side and try to determine which ones are legitimate and which ones are not.

550.785 - 554.027 Jesse Newman

And is there any way around this system?

557.469 - 574.028 Kyle Kaler

Yeah, no, there's not really much of a way around it. If we want to grow and become a larger company, a national company, we're going to have to continue to deal with distributors and continue to have to take on potential partnerships and relationships that are not profitable.

Chapter 6: How do fees impact the cost of groceries for consumers?

578.57 - 581.471 Kyle Kaler

It's very much a flawed system and an imperfect system.

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584.952 - 612.479 Jesse Newman

Jesse reached out to the major distribution companies to hear from them. Only Kayhee spoke with her. An executive there said food distribution is costly and complex, especially when it involves smaller brands, and that three-quarters of the fees originate from grocery stores, not from distributors. Coming up, how the food distribution system got to this point.

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675.757 - 692.763 Jesse Newman

Many grocery stores are in long-term contracts with a primary distributor. Like, UNFI is the main go-to for Whole Foods, and Kahey is the go-to for Albertson's. But over the years, the landscape of this industry has changed significantly.

693.504 - 715.12 Advertisement Speaker

You know, consolidation in the distribution industry is part of this story. You know, the distributors, they themselves operate on incredibly thin profit margins. These are not companies that are just racking it up. And so they have had to, you know, they have consolidated over time in order to stay afloat. themselves.

715.661 - 720.209 Advertisement Speaker

And that just means that there aren't very many national distributors for brands to choose from.

720.99 - 728.242 Jesse Newman

So for many small food brands, working with these distributors is pretty much the only way to get into grocery aisles.

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