Show notes
Alyssa Maxwell is the author of the acclaimed Gilded Age, Newport mystery series featuring Emmaline Cross. She’s a Vanderbilt by heritage, a Newporter by birth and a force to be reckoned with. Each book is set in a famous Newport Gilded Age mansion, some of them still open for viewing.
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Hi, I’m your host, Jenny Wheeler, and in the last Binge Reading episode for a while, we talk to Alyssa about her fascination for historical mysteries, resulting in the widely praised, 12 books series, with Book #1, Murder At The Breakers. premiering as a Hallmark movie earlier this year.
We’re going to be talking about the latest book om the series today, Murder at Vinand. Emma must stop a bold poisoner who was targeting the society wives of the 400 in Gilded Age Newport, Rhode Island.
As I’ve announced a few posts ago, this is going to be the last episode of The Joys of Binge Reading podcast for a while. We’re taking a break, maybe permanently, after 300 episodes, but you can always catch up on your favorite authors in the published shows, which are currently being posted to YouTube as well.
Our Book Giveaway
Our free book giveaway for this episode is Sadie’s Vow, the first book in my Home At Last mystery series, set in Gilded Age San Francisco.
You’ll find the links to download in the show notes for this episode on the website, the joys of binge reading.com.
SADIE’S VOW – FREE BOOK
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As I say, this is the last show for me for a while. I want to use my time to write more books. I’ve loved the time that I’ve spent talking to and researching the authors that I’ve featured on the show. Many of them, I love to still read the books, but it is just now time for a change.
Links to things mentioned in the show
Gilded Age: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age
Cornelius Vanderbilt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Vanderbilt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Vanderbilt_II
Consuelo Vanderbilt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Vanderbilt
Consuelo Second Husband: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Balsan
Alva Vanderbilt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Balsan
Nellie Bly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly
Sleuths In Time: https://www.facebook.com/SleuthsInTime/
Newport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport,_Rhode_Island
Saratoga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saratoga_Springs,_New_York
Newport Preservation Society: https://www.newportmansions.org/
The Breakers: https://www.newportmansions.org/mansions-and-gardens/the-breakers/
A Lady and Lady’s Maid mysteries: https://www.alyssamaxwell.com/ladys-maid-books
Arleigh House: https://househistree.com/houses/arleigh
Where to find Alyssa Maxwell online
Website: alyssamaxwell.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alyssa.maxwell.750
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alyssamaxwellauthor/
Introducing historical mystery author Alyssa Maxwell
Alyssa Maxwell: Gilded Newport mysteries
Now it’s time for Alyssa.
Jenny Wheeler: Hello there, Alyssa, and welcome to the show. It’s great to have you with us.
Alyssa Maxwell: Thank you, Jenny, for having me on.
Jenny Wheeler: Your Gilded Newport Mysteries have attracted great reviews, and you’ve also got the first book in the series now as a Hallmark movie. Congratulations on that.
Tell us firstly, why did you find the Gilded Age a fascinating period to write about and what do you think its attraction is for readers?
Alyssa Maxwell: For me, the fact that’s what Newport is most known for. Newport, Rhode Island is probably the biggest collection of Gilded Age mansions to be found anywhere, especially in such close proximity to each. Other. You could basically walk from one to the next as you’re going down Bellevue Avenue in Newport.
My husband’s from Newport, so I knew I wanted to set my series there, and I went with the Gilded Age because it is the most recognizable and famous thing about the city.
Jenny Wheeler: What is it that attracted the rich people to Newport? It became the summertime playground of the rich, didn’t it?
Alyssa Maxwell: They had been going to Saratoga for a couple of decades, I think, but Saratoga began to get old. They were getting bored with it. It was attracting what they considered a lesser crowd, so they needed a new place to go. Now Newport had been the summer playground of wealthy Southerners before the Civil War, so it already had a reputation as a summer resort kind of town.
Saratoga Springs is out, Newport is in
I guess they decided, Saratoga’s out, let’s go explore Newport. And they did. And decided this was where they were gonna build not only their houses, but their summer society. It was very much a society going on there. It had its own rules and its own etiquette, much as New York did the rest of the year.
Jenny Wheeler: I’m just interested in your comment about it being a playground for Southerners before the Civil War. After the Civil War, did that sort of rich southern society fade out a bit?
Alyssa Maxwell: Oh yeah. As soon as the war started, of course, they stopped coming. They had to stop coming, and after the war the money was gone for the vast majority of them. That was no longer an option.
The thing is, they didn’t tend to build mansions. they built smaller houses or they stayed in hotels because for them, the whole pastoral setting of the New England coastline was the attraction.
They were very outdoorsy. They didn’t have balls so much as, I think picnics, and outdoor kind of activities. It’s a simpler lifestyle.
Jenny Wheeler: Your key investigator, Emma Cross, is remotely related to the Vanderbilt family. Now, the Vanderbilts, they’re an extremely well-known name in American history. Tell us a bit about that family and her relationship to them.
The famed Vanderbilt family
Alyssa Maxwell: The family, of course, or the main part of it, was started with the first Cornelius Vanderbilt, who they called the Commodore. He started off in local shipping. And built that up into a railroad industry, little by little.
Emma would be his, I believe, great granddaughter. So, it’s a few generations removed.
And the reason she’s not a rich Vanderbilt is because she descends from one of the Commodore’s daughters.
He was a curmudgeon and he didn’t believe in leaving his daughters the vast fortunes that, he left his son William. By the time Emma’s generation comes along, most of it’s depleted, and what little money she has, she earns by working as a reporter.
But also she inherited a small annuity from a great aunt on her mother’s side of the family. So she is not living off the Vanderbilt wealth except for her contemporary relatives.
They have welcomed her into their lives when they’re in Newport and they do help her from time to time. They’re not gonna let her starve. They insisted on installing a telephone in her house so that she wouldn’t be so isolated out there in the Ocean Drive.
She has a nice relationship with them, but she doesn’t like to be beholden to them.
Following in the footsteps of Nellie Bly
Jenny Wheeler: Now, as you mentioned, she is a newspaper reporter, which would be a very unusual thing in that period, particularly for a woman of her social status. But you do have a bit of a model for her, don’t you, in the real life person of Nellie Bly. Tell us a bit about that and how you came to, to feel that it was okay to make her a newspaper reporter.
Alyssa Maxwell: Actually in the beginning of the series, she’s the society columnist for a local paper. So that was actually something women could do at the time. They could write about the balls and the fashions and who took what vacation or who’s gonna marry whom. That was okay. That was considered, women’s interests.
Of course she wants more. She wants to be a real news reporter. And that’s where I got the inspiration from Nelly Bly, who was a Gilded Age reporter and did things. She broke a lot of rules to get her story. She took a lot of risks and that is my inspiration. Nelly was unusual.
There weren’t a lot of women doing that, but she proved to a lot of readers that a woman could get a story and write well about it. This is where I modeled Emma, to a large extent.
Jenny Wheeler: Yes. It’s wonderful in a sense that each of the books features one of those historic houses, the amazing houses they built. Many of them still standing and able to be visited today. Tell us about that.
Murder at Vinland, the latest book. Are you still able to go to Vinland, for example?
Murder in Vinland
Alyssa Maxwell: Only if you’re a college student. Vinland and Wakehurst and Ochre Court, each of those have been books in my series. They are all part of Salve Regina University. They’re not open for tours to the public, but the students use them. They’re administrative offices, offices their classrooms.
They’re very functional. They’re still used today. Other houses like the Breakers’ Marble House, and The Elms, these are all part of the Preservation Society of Newport Counties. Properties that they maintain as museums, so people can go in and out and, see all these things that I’m writing about, and I get to go in them and do my research even more importantly.
Jenny Wheeler: Fantastic. We mentioned at the beginning about one of the books being a Hallmark movie, and that was book one in the series, Murder at the Breakers. That was a movie that featured Cornelius Vanderbilt, the original Vanderbilt’s grandson, as part of the story. Is that still showing on Hallmark?
Could people still see it?
Alyssa Maxwell: It comes and it goes. It repeated a few times in February and I think in March. I don’t know what their schedule is. They don’t tell me, but I would assume it’ll be on again eventually.
These are movies, so they’re not like regular television shows that are on every week like a series that you’d sit down and watch every week.
They pop up, they go away for a while, others come and go?
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Murder at the Breakers
Jenny Wheeler: Did you have much to do with the making of the movie? Were you very involved in it at all?
Alyssa Maxwell: No, not at all. No. My creative input was writing the book. And then they took it from there. I wasn’t consulted about anything.
Jenny Wheeler: And are you happy with the result?
Alyssa Maxwell: I’m happy. There’s always gonna be things that I wish either they had done differently or things that they had included. It’s my book and I wrote it all and it’s all important to me, but you can’t fit everything in a book, in an hour and a half. It is just not possible.
And I think that’s why they don’t consult with writers. I think it’s because they know that for us, we’re too involved in it. We are gonna want all those things included that can’t be.
Jenny Wheeler: Sure. Book Two, Murder at Marble House features another fascinating real life figure, and that’s Consuelo Vanderbilt. She’s got an amazingly sad story as an absolutely beautiful, rich girl who her mother Alice, almost sold off to an English Duke.
Her mother wanted the status of having a Duke in the family, and the Duke needed the Vanderbilt money, but it was a rather ill-fated pairing, wasn’t it.
Tell us a bit about that.
Alva Vanderbilt – the ultimate pushy mother
Alyssa Maxwell: It was. Alva Vanderbilt was her mother. Alva was a very ambitious woman. I really think that so many of the Gilded Age women were highly intelligent, assertive, and aggressive in a way that today would’ve allowed them to be CEOs and lawyers and, any other kind of career you might think of.
But then they couldn’t, and so they had to channel their talents and abilities and all of that into domestic affairs, which had to have been incredibly frustrating. But, there it was.
One of Alva’s outlets was to arrange a glorious marriage for her daughter. Now, Consuelo, at the time of the engagement, was already in love with another man, an American, and she planned to marry him.
They had an understanding. Alva would have none of it. She even went so far as to practically lock Consuelo in her room at Marble House while they awaited the Duke’s arrival from England so that they could make it official and get them engaged. They really had nothing in common.
He was coming for her money. They say she went down the aisle with tears in her eyes. I don’t know if that’s true. It may have been it probably was true. Unfortunately, immediately in the marriage they knew it wasn’t gonna work, so she, birthed the “heir and the spare,” and after that they pretty much lived separate lives.
She made the most of her time over there as a Duchess. She was very involved in charity work. She had a little home of her own near, I think it was just outside of London, where she would entertain artists and poets and writers and those kind of people. She enjoyed that. And, by the time of World War I she was no longer having anything to do with her husband.
He was in love with somebody else. And after the war, she met her second husband, a Frenchman Jacques Balsan. They married and were happy. So she did finally have the life she wanted and she reunited and, made up with her mother and they were able to have a good relationship for the rest of Alva’s life.
It took a while to get to happy ending
Jenny Wheeler: Oh that’s great.
Alyssa Maxwell: Yes. There was a happy ending, but it took a while to get there.
Jenny Wheeler: Over the course of the series. Emma herself has two significant romantic attachments in her life. Without giving too much away, for those who haven’t started reading the series yet, explain a bit about her romantic dilemmas and what she has to make a choice between.
Alyssa Maxwell: I know a lot of people groan when they hear romantic triangles, but Emma’s life is a triangle in a way. She’s Vanderbilt. She is just an ordinary Newporter. She’s a working woman. And so these men that come into her life, one is an ordinary Newporter, he’s a police detective.
The other one is a wealthy. He’s an heir to a newspaper empire. They represent those two sides of her life, and which side is she gonna go with? I
t would be easier to go with a detective because this is more the life she lives for most of the year. But the rich guy, she has to admit, ignites her passions more.
But then on the other hand, there’s that third angle of her maybe just wanting to remain an unmarried, independent woman, because in those days, a married woman had to give up a lot of her autonomy, her independence. So it’s all a dilemma for her,
Jenny Wheeler: Fantastic. You have another mystery series that I’d like to mention, and that’s called The Ladies and Ladies Maid Series, and it’s set in England post-World War II. It’s been described as ‘for Downton Abbey fans’ because it’s dealing with that period when the aristocracy in England was facing a huge amount of social change.
Tell us about that series. I guess that was the first series you wrote, was it? How did you get started in your writing?
Downton Abbey with a mystery twist
Alyssa Maxwell: The Newport mysteries did come first, and then I got into I the second series. I had already written the first two or three of the Newport series, I think, when my editor came up with the idea of a Downton Abbey series with a mystery twist.
I’m a huge fan. In fact, I’m be watching them again now. I haven’t seen them in a little while, so I thought it was time.
I chose that time period. I could have said it anywhere after the turn of the 19th century, early 20th century. But I picked that.
I didn’t wanna get bogged down in the war. I thought that would take over so much of the narrative. It was so complicated, so much and the tragedy and all of that, but the years immediately following were also very complicated because the war did away with so much of the class values.
They weren’t gone. The classes, were still very much there, but the edges were blurred between, the poor, the middle class, and the wealthy, because when the men went off to war, they were fighting side by side and they depended on each other.
And so did the women. The women were home, were raising money and gathering supplies and rolling bandages. And again, they worked side by side, the wealthy and the, the poor. Everybody had to pitch in. And when the men came home …. well so many of them, so many of them did not come home.
So many were maimed. That they said a whole generation of men were lost and a whole generation of women might not ever find husbands. The women left behind had to work.
They began working during the war because they had to fill in the labor gap and when the men came home, suddenly women were expected to stay home and make babies, but there weren’t the husbands available to do that with.
Women had to fight to keep those jobs in the workplace. It was a very complicated and a very flux time. Things were very much changing. And Downton Abbey goes into that quite a bit in the Post-War years. I just, I find that interesting.
During the war, everybody knew what their role was. There was a job you had to do and you did it. But after the war, it was confusing. What do I do? Do I have a job? Do I talk to this man who’s wealthier than I am or can I not? It was very confusing and I find that fascinating.
An ‘Old school’ approach to research
Alyssa Maxwell: Yes, that’s a tricky one, because it’s such a delicate balance. I think since I’m writing mysteries, I always know in the forefront of my mind that the mystery has to take precedence over everything else because if it’s not a a good mystery, the rest of it isn’t gonna matter.
I always start when I begin a series with a stack of books. It’s old school. I go to the library, I go to the used book networks online, and I hunt and I look for interesting things.
I love newspapers or something I just love to research with. I have one of those subscriptions to archive newspapers that go back, as, as far back as, as I’ve needed.
Jenny Wheeler: It must have involved a huge amount of research, both series actually. How do you go about tackling that research and how do you go about balancing fact and fiction?
And, there isn’t a lack of information on either time period. So that’s a big help. It’s all available. You just have to look for it. You just have to read it. And I like that history is the framework for both series. It’s the stage, but everything going on the stage is the mystery and the fiction and my imagination of work.
Jenny Wheeler: Yes That’s a lovely way to look at it. You’ve got some wonderful tips on your website about visiting Newport and the places you should go and the things you should see. Just give us a quick little rundown, maybe the five things you think visitors to Newport should include in their itinerary.
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What to see in Newport – Visitor’s Guide
Alyssa Maxwell: You are right.. Definitely if are there for a few days, you have to see at least a couple of mansions. You know that’s a given. It’s a very walkable city. I would say get into town and walk and explore because the restaurants are fabulous.
There’s a lot of shopping and it’s just fun to be out there among the rest of the crowds. Another really fun thing to do is to take a Harbor Tour. They’re usually an hour or two. You go out on a boat and you can see Newport from the water. You see the backs of the mansions, you see the coastline.
It’s really beautiful and you get a whole new perspective that you don’t get on land. Something else is to remember is that Newport isn’t just about the Gilded Age. It began in the pre-colonial, pre-revolutionary times. I think the oldest properties were probably there in the 16 hundreds.
There’s parts of town, especially what they call The Point, which is on the harbor, it is a colonial neighborhood. Walking up and down there you’re, it’s like you’re back in time. So that’s a lot of fun. And let’s see. I would, there’s another, there’s the cliff walk.
Which is I don’t know how many miles it is along the coast and again, you can see the backs of the mansions and you can look at over the ocean. There’s another one called something Sagwitch? West Point, which gives you an unspoiled New England coastline. It’s very similar to the cliff walk, but without the development, without the mansions and that kind of thing.
You really can see some New England, Rhode Island nature from there. And it’s beautiful.
Jenny Wheeler: What time of year is the best time to go?
How Alyssa Maxwell began writing
Alyssa Maxwell: Oh boy. I would say anytime starting June. Through the summer, it is very exciting because that’s the high tourist season. If you don’t mind the crowds, but you love boats and yachts and that kind of scene, that’s all going on into the Fall. Then you get fewer crowds, it’s still a little bit still busy, but you begin to get some of those fall colors and it’s cooler.
Honestly, I would say anytime from June through Christmas, because Christmas there is special. Everything used to be closed When I first met my husband. Newport shut down for the winter. The preservation Society didn’t keep the mansions open, but now there’s a few of them open and they’re decorated for Christmas, so I, yeah, I would recommend that too.
We did that one year. It was great.
Jenny Wheeler: Sounds fabulous. Turning now to looking slightly more widely at your career. Tell us a little bit about your early life and how you got into writing fiction. Did you always know you were going to be a writer?
Alyssa Maxwell: I think some of my earliest memories of, what do you want to be when you grow up? Yes. I did want to be a writer. I didn’t know what it really meant and I didn’t know how to get started.
I tried to be practical as people told me I should, go into some field where you can use your writing, not a creative writer. I think I didn’t begin to truly think about becoming a fiction writer until a friend of mine that I had worked with published her first novel. It was a romance for Harlequin, and I went, oh, she’s just a regular person.
A very intelligent person, and very creative, obviously. But something clicked in me and I realized, maybe I should try this.
So I did. But yes, even as a kid, I think I knew this was in me. I loved to write. I was always writing, whether it’s stories or a diary or letter writing to friends. We did that back in the Stone Age. It’s always been there, As early as when I first began to write, could write physically, I enjoyed it.
‘Something clicked’ on way to publication
Jenny Wheeler: And how was your journey to publication? Did you more or less just write a book and find an editor? How did that work out?
Alyssa Maxwell: I’m laughing. I wish that it happened. I wrote… I think it was my sixth book that finally was published.
It was a romance, but then I also sold the fifth book after that, but I didn’t start writing mysteries until I was about nine books into my romance career and realized that I was often putting in some sort of mystery, or suspense thread into my romances.
Again, something clicked and I thought let me try mysteries. And I immediately realized that it would be set in Newport. And then I had better luck. I didn’t have to write six mysteries before I sold my first one. I did sell Murder at the Breakers, my first mystery.
Jenny Wheeler: Fantastic. We always like to ask our guests about their taste as readers because this is a podcast listened to by people who are really voracious readers what do you like to read? Have you been a binge reader in the past and have you got anything you’d like to recommend to our listeners?
Alyssa Maxwell: I’ve always loved. Mysteries, I’ve always loved historical fiction. So I read a lot of that. I read pretty almost, I don’t want to say exclusively, I do read some contemporary, sometimes some contemporary fiction, but the vast majority of what I read is said in the past.
I just find it fascinating. I love history and I love the challenges that characters face in the days before our modern technology,
A life was really more difficult when you didn’t have a smartphone in your pocket to look things up, or the police didn’t have modern forensics to solve their crimes.
Alyssa’s favourite genres to read
Alyssa Maxwell: I liked that people had to live more by their wits than having any kind of outside help.
Jenny Wheeler: So who are some of your favorite authors?
Alyssa Maxwell: I read very widely, and I wouldn’t want to start naming names without including everybody because don’t forget writers read each other.
We’re friends and, we love to read each other’s books.
One thing I will say is I belong to a group called Sleuths in Time. And we support each other and cross promote each other. And I would encourage anybody to go to Sleuths In Time on Facebook and look at the authors there and the books that we’re all writing.
I think there’s some really good stuff there.
Alyssa Maxwell’s next 12 months
Jenny Wheeler: Lovely, and we’ll include that link in the show notes for this episode so people can find it, which is great. Tell me a little about what is next for Alyssa as author, what have you got on your desk for the next 12 months?
Alyssa Maxwell: I am writing another Newport book. It is Murder at Arleigh, and after that I have two more under contract, so that’ll keep me busy for another couple of years. The Next Lady and Lady’s Maid book comes out in February. And I’m already got some ideas about a possible future series something perhaps set in 1930s.
I’m thinking in this country, in the US.
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The Lady and Lady’s Maid series
Jenny Wheeler: So how many Lady and Lady’s Maid books are there in the series now?
Alyssa Maxwell: There are eight, with the ninth coming out in February or March I think it is
Jenny Wheeler: And you are really at this time still fairly intent on keeping both of these series going?
Alyssa Maxwell: For now. Yes.
Alyssa Maxwell: I should mention Murder at Vinland for any Florida friends or people are interested in Florida. That book has a Florida Tie-in, which is a little bit different for the series. They don’t actually go there, but there’s a lot of information and things that relate back to Florida in the plot.
Jenny Wheeler: I was going to say, you are living in Florida now, aren’t you? Tight?
Alyssa Maxwell: Yes.
Jenny Wheeler: Looking back down the tunnel of time at your creative career, if there was one thing you could change about it, what would it be?
Alyssa Maxwell: I think the only thing I would change is I might have started writing mysteries sooner, but other than that, I think, I heard an author say once that we all have our own path to follow.
We have to take our own for good or bad. And I believe that, I think everything that has happened for a reason and it’s helped me grow as an author.
Where to find Alyssa Maxwell online
Jenny Wheeler: Sure. I think that you are one of the authors who does live appearances. You do get to do face-to-face contacts with your readers, don’t you? But where can people find you, either online or in person?
Alyssa Maxwell: The, probably the easiest would be to go to my website, Alyssa maxwell.com because from there you can find my links to Instagram, Facebook, BookBub, Goodreads, all of that. I tend to be mostly on Facebook and Instagram, and people can always message me or email me, that’s fine.
There’s a contact form on my website if they’d like to ask me a question or make an observation. I’m always open to that.
Signing off from The Joys Of Binge Reading
Jenny Wheeler: That’s wonderful, Alyssa, thank you so much. It’s been great talking and we’ll have a great deal of pleasure in putting this up in a few weeks.
Alyssa Maxwell: Oh, thank you so much, Jenny. This has been fun.
Jenny Wheeler: That’s it for now. If you’ve enjoyed hearing about Alyssa, look out any of the other 300 episodes of the show, found on all of the popular podcast channels, including YouTube podcasts.
I’m sitting down to write more historical mysteries, and I’m currently working on the Sisters Of Barclay Square series, set in 1860s, Sydney, Australia. You’ll find all my book news at my website, Jennywheeler.biz. Bye for now and Happy Reading.