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The Kyle & Jackie O Show

😱 Taylor Swift isn't as innocent as we thought in the case of Justin Baldoni vs Blake Lively

21 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent news involves J-Lo and the glam bot situation?

2.005 - 14.523 Kyle

Jackie's got some O news. What have you got?

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14.904 - 22.956 Jackie

Do you know about J-Lo's glam bot situation? No. How she's getting... What do you mean, glam bot?

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22.976 - 23.416 Kyle

What is that?

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23.897 - 29.525 Jackie

You know, it's on the red carpet at the Golden Globes. You know those 360 type cams? Oh, yeah, yeah.

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29.545 - 30.747 Kyle

They zip around you, yeah.

30.727 - 47.536 Jackie

Think of it like that. And the guy that is the glam bot operator, he's like, Cole is his name. He's like Instagram kind of, he's known, right? Instagram kind of influencer. And when J-Lo stepped onto the big circle.

Chapter 2: Why is J-Lo facing criticism for ignoring a glam bot operator?

47.596 - 70.47 Jackie

Yeah. Cole is, like, instructing her on what's going to happen and talking to her. Yeah. And then she's got her back to him and she doesn't acknowledge him. And so it's gone viral because everyone's like, oh, my God, you'd think she would at least acknowledge this poor guy, you know? Like, she's just completely ignoring him. And...

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70.45 - 85.948 Jackie

Doesn't, even when she's finished, doesn't sort of acknowledge him to walk off. He's a 360 camera operator. No one acknowledges that. He's not like the behind the scenes guy. Like he actually is on camera and he is like, you know, hosting that.

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86.148 - 91.397 Kyle

When you say he's known. J-Lo doesn't know the difference between this bloke and a bloke bringing her a drink.

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91.417 - 97.385 Jackie

Well, I think the point there... And I'm not backing the trolls because I'm actually going to defend J-Lo on this.

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Chapter 3: What role does Taylor Swift play in the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni case?

97.926 - 107.038 Jackie

But what they're saying is it doesn't matter if she knows of him. It's just the fact that somebody is there talking to her and she's ignoring them.

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107.058 - 126.802 Kyle

That's what they're... This is what happens. These influencers, they only operate their own cameras. When you're a J-Lo and you've got 30-odd people around you... You are often being told with little voices here and there, okay, keep walking up here, you're going to talk to MTV. That's what I was going to say. You don't turn around and go, oh, is it MTV?

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126.822 - 144.4 Jackie

You just keep walking. You're like, oh, hey, MTV. That's the way it works, the real world. The great thing is, though, is this Cole guy, the glam bot guy, he has actually backed her and kind of gone to her defence and said he was not offended at all. Here it is.

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144.38 - 161.777 Cole

These are some things that I've actually wanted to say for a while, but there's never really been a chance to sort of like talk about the world at which the glam bots exist. The first thing to know, I don't take it personally. And even with JLo, like I didn't take it personally. I didn't feel rude in that moment. I think there's a couple of things that sort of like added to the fuel of this idea.

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162.018 - 177.815 Cole

One, like she's just down to business. The carpet was closed. She's ready to go inside. She knew what she was going to do. You know, she got into the position and I think it was just like unfortunate that the position was, she was facing away from me. So I am talking to her. She is looking away, but she's getting ready for the move. That moment didn't feel rude. Yeah. That's what I think.

177.835 - 178.456 Cole

These trolls.

178.636 - 179.557 Jackie

She knew what she was doing.

Chapter 4: How are Taylor Swift's text messages related to the court case?

179.618 - 197.243 Jackie

She just got into position. Boom. She's ready to go. She's a professional. Yeah. They're being led left, right and center. They're just getting the job done. That's it. Part and parcel of being a star. You know the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni court case? It's still going on. Oh, yeah. I think it's only going to go to court this year.

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197.263 - 201.712 Kyle

Oh, I thought they threw their arms. I thought they just walked away from it all and everyone was dismissing everything.

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202.053 - 209.149 Jackie

His case got dropped because I think he countersued. But, yeah, so his got dropped.

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209.365 - 214.674 Kyle

I don't believe. So she's still suing him for this sexual harassment or whatever it is.

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214.714 - 215.134 Jackie

I think so.

Chapter 5: What does Taylor's involvement reveal about her friendship with Blake?

215.154 - 216.276 Jackie

Yeah, yeah.

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216.296 - 218.88 Kyle

I thought the whole thing was under shady circumstances.

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218.9 - 234.204 Jackie

Well, you know, Taylor got dragged into it originally because, you know, she was brought in by Blake to almost board it over the director so that Blake could get her... Yes. With what she wanted the film to be.

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234.244 - 235.226 Kyle

That's what I heard.

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235.366 - 246.382 Jackie

And so, yeah, and then Taylor really, like, distanced herself from the whole thing and her lawyers said there's no need for Taylor to be involved. She wasn't involved in this. Like, this is not her problem.

246.402 - 248.204 Kyle

But she was there on set in real life.

248.244 - 274.161 Jackie

Well, she did go and visit on set. That's true. But still there's been this kind of giving off of, oh, I'm not involved in this particular thing. fight. And, well, it seems that due to the messages that have been revealed, the text messages between Blake and Taylor, she is kind of involved, or at least invested, let's say. She's invested.

275.062 - 285.897 Kyle

Because there's a fair bit of back and forth between them. You listen to your friend, you hear them out, and all of a sudden you're involved in a court case because your friend's having a whingesty about their own problems. That doesn't seem fair.

285.877 - 293.033 Jackie

Yeah, and I'm going to say that I know people are quite surprised by Taylor's text messages.

Chapter 6: How does the dynamic between Blake and Justin affect their careers?

293.514 - 303.055 Jackie

Why, what are they? Because she seems to be in cahoots with Blake to kind of bully this guy into submission. I haven't seen the text messages.

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303.135 - 304.358 Kyle

I'd love to hear about them.

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304.338 - 317.528 Jackie

Yeah, okay, I'll go through them for you. But I think, like, you know, it doesn't look good, but at the same time, if your best friend needs backup, you're going to back her, you know? You're going to back her.

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317.729 - 321.638 Kyle

And then you will have to suffer the consequences if that goes wrong.

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321.658 - 346.756 Jackie

Then you suffer the consequences, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So according to the court documents, Blake asked Taylor to, I think that was what the set visit was about, because she wanted Taylor to come to set so that Justin would feel intimidated and kind of relent a little bit on some of it. Of, yeah, what Blake wanted. And so this text message is to Taylor, I think, after her visit. Right.

346.776 - 364.985 Jackie

And she said, you were epically heroic today. You making shit up about me and referring to yourself as my doll. This clown falling for all of it, but also resisting it. You are the world's greatest friend ever. So that was my message. Seems involved if you ask me.

Chapter 7: What impact does the court case have on Taylor Swift's public image?

365.887 - 393.572 Jackie

I know, I know. They went so far as to plan to use one of Taylor's songs in the film's trailer so that Blake would have even more leverage over Justin because she got Taylor Swift to give a song. That's a good get. Yeah, a bit more power in the dynamic. And so this is the message from Taylor on that saying, if Justin was strategic, he would be like no Taylor Swift.

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394.013 - 406.249 Jackie

That gives you more power over the film. So she's just stating obvious there. Then Blake responded, he should have run from your music. How stupid. This was his only shot at having the appearance of an upper hand.

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406.229 - 431.49 Jackie

And then this message, this one from Taylor where when the case came out that Blake was going to be suing Justin for sexual harassment and it hit the press, the New York Times wrote an article that like – Justin was having this smear campaign against her and he denied it and he said it didn't happen.

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431.53 - 454.4 Jackie

And that's when Taylor messaged Blake and said, I think this bitch knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny little violin. Referring to the guy as this bitch. Referring to Justin, yeah, like he's, yeah, this bitch knows what's coming. So that's a little bit like, oh, mean girl behaviour, you know? That's against the grain of what we've seen.

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454.44 - 456.463 Kyle

Of Taylor.

456.543 - 461.491 Jackie

Yeah, yeah. She would absolutely hate that that is, she's getting dragged into this.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of celebrity friendships in legal disputes?

461.511 - 464.096 Kyle

A little bit of a look behind the curtain.

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464.216 - 465.598 Jackie

Behind the curtain.

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466.439 - 476.49 Kyle

Well, for once, I found that Taylor-Blake Lively discussion very interesting. Because normally I was just getting confused with the whole thing.

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476.75 - 482.216 Jackie

Well, it was convoluted because she's suing him and then he's suing her.

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482.256 - 483.798 Kyle

The film's quite good.

483.818 - 488.923 Jackie

I didn't mind the film. I thought it was good too. I mean, it wasn't like super memorable.

488.943 - 503.033 Kyle

They both damaged each other's careers forever with this carry-on. People will avoid working with both of them from now on. If you're nervous about... Oh, I don't want this star to be hijacking my whole project. You just won't use it. Use someone else.

503.053 - 522.383 Jackie

Yeah, that's true. It hasn't done them any favours, has it? No, none. Yeah, yeah. What else is going on? Oh, well, Kim Kardashian. Speaking of Taylor Swift, yeah, apparently she listens to Taylor's music despite having that massive feud with her for so long. You can't help it. Remember that feud?

522.515 - 524.478 Kyle

With the Kanye stuff, yeah, I remember that.

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