We Need to Keep Talking About the Files
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What is the main focus of the episode and why are the Epstein files important?
So the Jews control our government, I'm
sorry. So the Mormons were right.
I actually I did recently see uh Some videos of Mormon missionaries speaking in Arabic. The Mormons are trying to convert the Muslims. Good luck. Yeah, that's what I said. I w uh uh uh Josh Benson posted about it. He's gonna be uh coming on the show later this year, um, History Unhinged and Weird Bible, I think. Uh also he and uh The Lord's Giant just started up a a podcast together as well, Josh and the Giant. Highly recommend checking that out. Um to get your your Weird Bible fix since We that's that's been a difficult thing to get moving again. It's coming. Like we have three guests scheduled for it later this year. We're good on that. But oh boy, it has been a journey trying to get weird Bible back. Anyway, uh do you think we're like a minute and a half, two minutes into the episode yet?
Probably. Okay, so we can actually start talking about the thing. I don't know how many times we can use the word that I want to use um regarding a certain uh the New York financier.
Um
go with that. But L I'm trying to figure out the way to put this, but That recently was a large issue in a very high profile primary in Kentucky. Uh and there has been I wouldn't necessarily say a a renewed interest. But I think that it's it's now at the forefront in a way that it wasn't before. Um I think First of all, th this is one of those things that it was going on at a time that I don't think we were aware of it. When we were in college, all of this stuff was still like that's when the man was arrested. Yep. When he went to prison, when he definitely didn't end his own life.
I I think even then there was a lot that was still unknown. Yeah. There were certain levels of obviously 'cause he had been convicted once before. So like people had an un a semi understanding, but it wasn't making headlines. And a lot of the details of Victims and such hadn't been publicized yet, or at least widely.
Yeah. And and we've wanted to talk about this, but frankly, there's three and a half million pages in those files. We have not read all of them. And we have not read all of them. We've both read a good amount here and there, but and honestly on different parts, I think, which is why I wanted to, you know, sit down and talk about this because I am very confused. I mean I'm not. I I totally I think I totally understand what's going on here. What
I was just checking your keyboard for an idea I had.
Oh, okay. But I've I've been struggling to comprehend one specific thing, which is that Basically from the time he didn't uh do that thing in prison Un until twenty late twenty twenty five, I feel like everybody was kind of on board in the same spot where it's like, we need to see what's in those files. We need to see what's in the emails. I think a lot of people also have this idea that like, you know, there is a static client list. There, like, there is the black book that's more about who was on the plane. Um, that's not necessarily a smoking gun if you're in the black book. Uh, I think Michael Jackson at one point is in a picture with this man and And when they dug in it was like, oh my God, look, Michael Jackson.
Oh well and now they've come out with a Michael Jackson documentary trying to paint him as a a monster. Um, I haven't watched it. My understanding of that situation is that it was probably a little weird, but there was never any successful conviction.
You've got but I've heard a little bit about it on on both sides. You've got some people saying that he was a predator. You've got some people saying that actually the whole reason that he started Neverland was to try and keep kids away from being preyed upon. Yeah
At the same time, it's kind of weird. Like no, don't go to his house, come to mine. Like that don't totally get that. My take on it is probably historically has been Michael Jackson had a incredibly rough childhood. He was horribly abused. I don't believe in that manner, but no, you know, uh as far as we know. Yeah. Horribly abused by his father. Um, and that this was to me, this looks like somebody trying to
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main focus of the episode and why are the Epstein files important?
0:26–10:19
2
How did the Epstein Files Transparency Act finally get passed in Congress?
10:19–20:20
3
Why did Thomas Massie become a target after the files were released?
20:20–30:11
4
What do we know about the redacted names and why were they unredacted?
30:11–41:35
5
How are the Epstein files connected to broader political issues like the Iran war?
41:35–51:47
6
What impact does the handling of victims’ identities have on justice for abuse survivors?
51:47–1:02:50
7
How do policing, prison reform, and social services factor into the larger discussion?
1:02:50–1:13:13
8
What hopeful actions can listeners take to keep the conversation going?
1:13:13–1:24:02
Speakers
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