Ann Wilson | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Women had to build their own universe, a parallel universe in rock.
It seemed to me from the very beginning you guys were a big band.
Lyrics to me are everything.
You weren't just a pop act.
Right.
Like you meant something to that world.
You've got to hang on to your identity.
It never struck me that you were afraid of sort of taking things head on.
No, I've been pretty much wearing my life on my sleeve the whole time.
Ann Wilson, thank you for being here. So nice to see you.
My pleasure. Thanks for asking me.
So you've had, you know, never quite sure when these things are going to come out. But generally speaking, as we're talking, your doc is just coming out or you're promoting it.
Yes.
In my voice. Yep. I was curious. You're certainly worthy of your own documentary, but the heart docs have been done and the behind the musics and all that stuff. What about wanting to do your own story was important for you?
Well, I felt at this time in my life and in my career that it would be refreshing to people to... know something about me personally apart from the band. Why am I interesting otherwise if it's not all about heart, you know? And so we found that my life really was worthy of a documentary. Yeah. A lot of stuff has happened. Yeah.
Yeah. I think that's interesting, right? Because I've been listening to you for, I think the first time I heard you was probably 77, right? So. Oh, right. For almost 40 years of being a fan. And, um, But, you know, you're one of those people that even though you've been in my life as an artist and somebody I admire, I don't feel I know that much about you.
Right. Yeah.
And of course, it's always most of what I know, at least colloquially, is within the context of being in a band with your sister and, you know, what happened in the 70s, what happened in the 80s. But I feel like I don't know that much about what you actually went through.
Why did Ann Wilson decide to make a personal documentary now?
Yeah.
Does the doc kind of get into that? Absolutely. That's great.
Yeah. It goes through every decade and what was happening. And it's not a whitewash either. I mean, it doesn't just show the good stuff. It shows all the stuff. Yeah. The ups and downs and, you know.
It never struck me that you were afraid of sort of taking things head on.
No, I've been pretty much wearing my life on my sleeve the whole time.
Yeah.
Talk about a little bit, if you don't mind, because you're doing this thing as we talk, where you're going to all these different cities. So you're showing the doc and then you're doing a Q&A afterwards.
Yeah, yeah.
What was the thinking behind that?
Just that... To give people a chance to see it on a big screen, for one thing. But then to let them just ask us, me and the director, Barb Hall, to ask us questions that they might have had that weren't covered.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, because I guess that's the hardest thing, right?
Yeah.
A doc, usually 90, 100 minutes, but how do you put a person's life into... Yeah.
You can't, really. Well, ours is 75 minutes, and that's... Okay, that's a lot of life in the 75 minutes. Yep.
You strike me... I guess we were talking before we rolled. You know, my dad was a musician, and... My dad, like a lot of musicians, you know, he looked at musicians sort of like you either could play or you couldn't. And there were those in it because they were serious and there were those in it because they liked the party.
Yeah.
You always struck me as somebody who's like in it because that's what you do and you're in it till the end. Is that a fair thing to say?
Yeah. Yeah. That's a fair thing to say. I'm a lifer.
Yeah, that's the term I was going to use. That's the term my daddy used, is lifer. I feel like I'm a lifer. We're not there yet, but close enough, right?
Yeah, I'd say starting at age 14 and still doing it when you're 75, that's like pretty much, that tells people that you're into it.
I'm in awe of someone with your talent because, and I haven't known a lot of people like with your gift, but it seems like, and I've listened to early recordings with you, it's like it just comes out of your mouth right.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:16
2
Why did Ann Wilson decide to make a personal documentary now?
2:16–16:04
3
When and how did Ann discover her powerhouse rock voice?
16:04–28:18
4
Which artists inspired Ann Wilson early on and why did Aretha move her so deeply?
28:18–44:37
5
How did Ann and Nancy build Heart from folk duo to a hard‑rock band in Vancouver?
44:37–55:58
6
Why did Heart face tension over image, gender and band dynamics in the 1970s–80s?
55:58–1:11:59
Speakers
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