Peter Asher | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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How did Peter Asher first become interested in record production?

Peter Asher 0:00
Once I discovered what a record producer could do, you know, that you could hire musicians vastly better than yourself and tell them what to play, I thought that was brilliant.
Billy Corgan 0:07
It's not often that somebody will take themselves out of the spotlight and make it about somebody else.
Peter Asher 0:13
That's true. I suppose, yeah.
Billy Corgan 0:16
But that's what I was determined to do. We could literally just talk for hours about you as a producer.
Peter Asher 0:22
That era that we were on stage when it was all about screaming girls and stuff.
Billy Corgan 0:26
Oh, yeah. You guys had the best era of them all.
Peter Asher 0:28
We did. We enjoyed ourselves. And somewhere in your story, Paul McCartney moves into your house. I was driving down Sunset Boulevard in a rented Mustang convertible being recognized by beautiful women. I kind of went, this is a little bit better.
Unknown 0:41
This is an improvement.
Billy Corgan 0:45
Peter Asher, so nice to see you. Thank you for being here.
Peter Asher 0:47
Good to see you too. Thank you.
Billy Corgan 0:48
You know, we've had such an incredible, crazy life.
Peter Asher 0:52
We've been lucky.
Billy Corgan 0:53
Yes. But, um, I, I found myself at four this morning as I was doing my, my research, um, uh, Like sort of where do we begin? So I'll start here if that's okay. It's the breakup of you and your partner, Gordon. It's about 68.
Peter Asher 1:12
Yes.
Billy Corgan 1:13
It seems like there was no sort of dramatic...
Peter Asher 1:15
No, there wasn't. In fact, we didn't ever break up as such. Okay.
Billy Corgan 1:20
Just kind of stopped?
Peter Asher 1:21
We never had any kind of Everly Brothers-style actual bust-ups, let alone attacking each other on stage and all the crazy stuff they did. We gradually started doing other things. Gordon went to Australia for a while. He started acting. He was the original Joseph in... Technicolor. The original Pharaoh in Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat. Oh, I didn't know that. He was the one who did it like Elvis, which is always part of the part because Gordon did a very good Elvis impersonation. And it wasn't really, it was 37 years or some ridiculous amount of time until we got back together. But as I say, we never actually said, we're never doing this again. But I admit, as the decades went by, I kind of naturally assumed, well, we're never doing that again.
Peter Asher 2:09
But we did. It was actually Paul Schaefer and his wife who caused that to happen. They were doing a benefit, wanted to do a benefit for Paul Schaefer's friend and our friend too, Mike, what's his name? Jesus. The keyboard player in the Dave Clark Five, Mike Smith. Mike who was a terrific keyboard player and had a terrible accident, fell off his roof and needed help and Paul Schaefer wanted to put the benefit together and Paul's wife, Kathy said, you know, it would be great if you could get Peter and Gordon back together and do a sixties themed benefit. So he called me up and after a 37 year gap, it was evident to me that if we were ever going to do it, this would be the time because Paul Schaefer could be relied upon to put a great band together.
Peter Asher 2:54
So we said, yes.
Billy Corgan 2:54
So there was no sort of singular moment where you're like, okay, that's done.
Peter Asher 2:57
So the ending, no, the ending was very undramatic. Yeah. We just started doing other things. Gordon wanted to be a solo act anyway. And so, no, there was no official breakup moment.
Billy Corgan 3:12
Right. You produced the guy from Manfred Mann. Paul Jones. Paul Jones, right. Did that come before joining Apple as A&R? Yes, before. Yeah. Was that just something as a lark to do with a friend type of thing? No, no.
Peter Asher 3:28
What was interesting was, you know, I... Because people often ask how I became a record producer and how I became a manager, and they're terribly different, because being a record producer was an actual concrete ambition of mine. I wanted to do that. Oh, I didn't know that, yeah. Because I'd very much enjoyed the process of making records with Peter and Gordon, and gradually had gotten more and more involved in the actual production and decision-making.
Billy Corgan 3:53
Who'd you work with? Who produced you guys? That's something I feel I should know, but I don't know.
Peter Asher 3:58
The first track... the initial big hit, World Without Love, was produced by a man called Norman Newell, who is best known as sort of middle-of-the-road kind of productions.

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