Tommy Lee |The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Was that really how it was?
These kids don't know. It's like neon lights and sleazy at the same time. I'm in every strip bar ever at the same... I don't know. Something about the way you play that groove, it's like, that's the money.
People, at the end of the day, I believe, want a new experience.
The crew as an institution is completely its own animal. You guys have played by your own rules. When everybody's going right, we're going left. You're not a person who thinks a lot about consequences.
No, no.
Yeah, because I don't care. My good brother, Tommy Lee. So good to see you. Lots of love. Dude, it's so good to see you. So... So good. Your life is one... Beautiful explosion going in about 360 degree direction. So I thought it would be more fun, and I know you like to have some fun. So I thought it'd be more fun if we just kind of just touch on some things. You're certainly worthy of a full career review, although it's not over yet, but it seems not to be your style. So I'm going to bend the rules a little bit and we'll just kind of like, we'll free associate a little bit. Beautiful. All right. So let's start here. And even though I know you decently well, I actually don't know where you're going to fall on this question.
So the question is essentially about AI. So let's start here. Do you fall on the positive side of AI or the negative side?
I'm right in the middle. You know what I mean? I think...
Because you love technology. I totally do.
You like your toys. I'm such a geek.
So there's got to be a part of you that likes the toy in the thing.
Yeah. I mean, it's... Ooh, that's a big one.
Because...
If people are using it as a tool, I've spoke to artists who just, for instance, on my album cover, this kind of hit me because I was afraid. I was like, I want to keep the original artwork. He drew it.
Right.
But I said, I've remixed the record in Dolby Atmos and I want a 3D and also sort of reimagine the artwork. Yeah.
And would you... Just for context, this is for your 2005 Tommy Land. The ride record.
Is it Tommy Land Rides Again? Rides Again, yeah.
Yeah.
And you've made a, sorry, just because I want people to understand it because I want them to listen.
I got you.
They've made a new version of like a redone Indolby Atmos.
Yes.
Okay, so that's the context.
Yeah. And so, you know, it was on a sort of, you know, with an artist, it's kind of a touchy, of me wondering, is he going to be opposed to using AI to kind of 3D this? Because it's a flat drawing. It's a cool drawing with this roller coaster going in my ear and out the other end. It's kind of like a ride through my creative dark street. And so in asking him, he goes... And his answer was so quick, he goes, 100%, I am down with it. Because for me, as the original artist of the piece, I love it because I use it as a creative tool. It's not replacing me. It's taking something that I've done and really like 3D-ing it out and making it.
So if you were 15 years old now, would you want to use AI to make music, you think?
To make music? Right? Yeah, that's... Because you like the hit. Yeah, that's weird.
How does Tommy Lee view AI and why did he use it to reimagine Tommyland Rides Again artwork?
That I don't think I'll ever... Have you done the thing yet where you put a song in and have AI kick out a different version? Have you done any of that yet?
No.
Have you seen people do that? Have you seen any demonstration of that? no you can literally load in like an acoustic demo you can literally just be a demo of you acoustic guitar and vocal and it spits out like a bro country version of your song like like in like 60 seconds with guitar parts background singing it's it's wild that's insane now so this is 2026 we're doing this interview so five years from now it'll be insane what people will be able to do
Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a loaded one, man. Cause there's so many pluses and so many weird minuses that could, I don't know, dude. It's, but it's, but it, I do like the forward movement with the technology.
That's why I kind of guessed you would be kind of in the gray space on it because, because I know you love, you, you're, you're somebody who embraces technology and you're certainly not afraid of it.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:00
2
How does Tommy Lee view AI and why did he use it to reimagine Tommyland Rides Again artwork?
4:00–17:52
3
What are Tommy Lee and Billy's concerns about streaming and the 'musical middle class'?
17:52–28:29
4
How did Nikki Sixx buy back Mötley Crüe's catalog and why does Tommy call that story incredible?
28:29–38:36
5
Why do Billy and Tommy think rock is staging a comeback and are young fans returning to guitar bands?
38:36–47:51
6
How did the 2014 'cessation of touring' blood contract happen and what led to Mötley Crüe's return?
47:51–56:57
7
What did Billy learn from recording with Tommy in 2013 and what makes Tommy's drum groove unique?
56:57–1:10:49
8
Why did Tommy remix Tommyland Rides Again in Dolby Atmos and how does Atmos change how records are made?
1:10:49–1:11:43
Speakers
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