Carnie Wilson | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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What childhood memories does Carnie Wilson share about music?
See, right?
That's one of my guilty pleasure songs.
Oh God, I love it. This is getting really deep, but this is where songwriting... It's what we're here to do.
No, because there is a connective tissue. You understand where I'm going.
He's like, you need to call your band Pretzels with Mustard. And we're like, okay, you're A, you're clearly wasted and have the munchies.
Were you stoned too, though?
Who knows? I just remember it was the most creative, magical thing I've ever felt.
I'm curious, because you grew up in a musical world, like when do you first remember hearing music? Do you have like that first memory?
Yeah. I don't know if I have like a first memory, but I have memories of being in our living room. My parents had a really great stereo system that we could blast super loud. And we used to test it, like how loud can we really go? There were these huge black speakers and they were on the ground actually. And It was just, we would just totally play with fire, just like blast as loud as we could till the windows would shake. And I mean, how destructive can that be when that's the carpenters, right? Because that's what we would blast, would be the carpenters. So, you know, tuck into myself and feel it all, you know, really loud.
But anything loud has a kind of a...
Yeah. I don't know what it is about volume of music. I really love listening to my music very loudly. When I'm in my car, it's kind of dangerous the way I listen to it. But I don't know if it's because my hearing is bad right now. I don't know. But it's kind of always been that way.
Really?
How did growing up in a musical family influence Carnie's career?
Yeah. Um, so I remember the first memories would be like, uh, just in the living room, mom and dad's stereo. And then it was Captain Fantastic. It was, um.
That would have been out 73, right?
Yeah. So I was born in 68. So like five, five years old.
I'm just a little older than you. But how much though? I'm 67.
Oh.
You look great. God. Jesus. No, I'm 56. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So I just remember loving, just loving it from young, young age.
Because I grew up in a musical household too. Yeah. So I feel like kids who grew up with musician parents, you know, we grew up in that atmosphere. There's always weird people hanging around. Right. And music and...
It is an atmosphere.
Yeah, so I was curious for your own personal connection because, you know, as you know, when you grow up with a famous parent, people kind of put their own version of that on you. Yeah. But your musical life indicates to me that you had your own experience with music and your own trajectory.
Absolutely. You're right about that. People love to talk about that lineage and it is a powerful thing and something I'm so proud of. But yeah, it's like I really did have my own experience with it. And I went in phases, you know, discovering different music at different ages. But yeah.
So tell me some of the people that you were listening to. Like when you first were like, okay, this is my music. I want to listen to this record.
Well, that was, I mean, I am total 70s whore for music. Love anything in the 70s. I'm completely like blown away by.
Give me some guilty pleasures.
Okay. Like Pablo Cruz, you know, like...
Do you know he's a music supervisor now? Did you know that? Is he? Somebody told me he's the number one music supervisor guy in town here in L.A. Like, if you need a scene with, like, some kind of music, you go to Pablo Cruz.
He's your guy. Oh, my God. Well, like, Ambrosia.
Remember Jay Ferguson? Of course. Yes. Thunder Island, was it?
Yes. Love that song.
See, right?
That's one of my guilty pleasure songs. Oh God, I love it. I love, I love a groove. Like that's the thing that got me was like, that's why I love like Michael Jackson's music. Cause it just, he just had these like rhythm, like these groove things. And I think all his songwriting like started with that. with some kind of groove in his mind.
Yeah, you always think like he's always very rhythmic in his writing.
Yeah, rhythmic, yeah. But so I was drawn to that. But definitely, you know, Fleetwood Mac. I think my first love was Elton John.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What childhood memories does Carnie Wilson share about music?
0:00–1:48
2
How did growing up in a musical family influence Carnie's career?
1:48–7:29
3
What challenges did Carnie face while writing music?
7:29–18:05
4
How did Carnie's experiences shape her songwriting process?
18:05–48:45
5
What insights does Carnie Wilson share about her family's musical legacy?
48:45–49:13
6
How does Carnie describe her personal struggles with body image and public perception?
49:13–50:21
7
What role did Carnie's husband play in her journey towards sobriety?
50:21–52:05
8
How does Carnie reflect on her relationship with her father, Brian Wilson?
52:05–1:42:11
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