Conrad Flynn | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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What unique insights does Conrad Flynn share about his Hollywood lineage?

Billy Corgan 0:00
I'm essentially a guy with a very limited resume, but great references.
Conrad Flynn 0:04
We're going to have a blues jam into a satanic infinity. I'm totally game for that. I'm a firm believer in that. That may sound insane, but I'm telling you, it does something to me.
Billy Corgan 0:14
The metaphor of the video game or the computer game for our world is actually incredibly apt.
Conrad Flynn 0:21
Can you see why we're all crazy?
Billy Corgan 0:23
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Trust me. That's true.
Yeah.
Conrad Flynn 0:27
Conrad Flynn, thank you very much for being on The Magnificent Others. I want to do a little bit of promo before we start, which is you have a substack, the Flynn Effect. The Flynn Effect. With an E, not affect, effect. I just discovered your substack yesterday, so I'm a substacker myself, so... How are you finding the Substack experience?

How does the conversation connect rock music to occult influences?

Billy Corgan 0:48
It's very good. I was warned, Billy, ahead of time that you feel a lot of pressure to post a lot. And so I'm having the classic writerly thing. If you post or you put something out there and at first you feel good. And then you see nobody cares. Well, that can happen. That always happens. That's my life. Yeah. No one cares. But then, like, regardless of how it feels in a few days, it's like you never did it. And the pressure wants to be like, you have to put something else out there.
Conrad Flynn 1:10
Well, this is the dopamine of social media, right? They kind of get you into a system where you're somehow serving some invisible master. But overall, I've had a positive experience.
Billy Corgan 1:18
Sometimes the master is visible on social media, like, oh, this is what we're doing.
Conrad Flynn 1:21
But I think you're doing some cool work on Substack, so please go check out a Substack. I find you hard to define, you know, you don't have a, he's the rock singer of so-and-so. So can you give me your elevator pitch of who you are?
Billy Corgan 1:34
That's, that's a funny thing to like, cause other people will be like, you know, your, your resume or your whatever.

What role did psychedelics play in the creative processes of artists?

Billy Corgan 1:38
I'm essentially a guy with a very limited resume, but great references. where other people would be like, oh, I know Conrad, I back Conrad, but in terms of what I actually do or have done, even my closest friends, Billy, are like, I don't know what you do. So I'm a writer. I used to do stand-up comedy. How funny are you? Depending on how, when I'm, I'm about a seven or eight. Okay. When I'm really feeling it, I can be a nine. Yeah. But I'm a unique seven, unique eight. All right, I have to come watch you do some comedy sometime.
Yeah.
Conrad Flynn 2:11
If you're in this world of new media where you're sort of figuring out who you are, you're a writer, but you're also personality. Obviously, you're appearing on podcasts talking about your work, which we'll get to in a second. But what is your aspirational goal of where you want to take this?
Billy Corgan 2:25
You know... Billy, that's a good question. I think with a lot of this stuff, it is so amorphous, as you're saying, where it's like you can be a writer, but then you do a few podcasts, and then people want televisual stuff. So I'll probably have to do a podcast. I'm working on one now.

How did the Manson family and Hollywood intersect during the 1960s?

Billy Corgan 2:41
I'm getting one off the ground with my buddy Stephen Thomas Erlewine, who is the great American rock critic. He worked for AllMusic for a number of years. And so we're likely going to do one on rock and the occult. uh called running with the devil tentatively with sue kolinsky and greg johnson you created the osbournes but um i'll probably do that i love writing i love cultural commentary but as you know billy you kind of see where this stuff goes there's as soon as you try to define yourself people are like well now we want you to have a talk show and then i see you know yeah i think um the sky's the limit for what you're after and and you talked about a little bit about your your interest uh
Conrad Flynn 3:18
Is it too narrow to say your current interest is where rock meets the occult, or is it wider than that?
Billy Corgan 3:24
I mean, it's wider than that, but it's always an interesting subject for me. I mean, my grandfather, both of my grandparents worked in show business. So you know what goes on behind the wizard's curtain. Exactly, exactly. You know that the wizard is just a normal guy, but also the wizard be weird.

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