Dean and Robert DeLeo | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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What is discussed at the start of this section?

Billy Corgan 0:00
i'm not interested in the dirt stuff you know i mean it's like it's not give it to you baby there i am somewhere in chicago you guys come on i watched that video i think who the fuck is this right god bless stp but he dangled you over my head gosh i'm sorry oh no no look we're the last of the mohicans record labels giving us some bread for a video and yeah i loved every aspect of creativity you know yeah at the time i kind of resented it but now i realize it was actually a blessing it's the last time there was any kind of order now no one in this business can tell you what success is Welcome to the DeLeo Brothers. Thank you. Thank you. Can you believe it's been 30 years since we've been putting out some of this music?
Billy Corgan 0:41
That is just a mind blower. Because it just seems like yesterday that we were all on MTV and carousing about, pausing. Carefree. Carefree. You know, playing, you know, de-sus chords. You know, you still got the mains. I don't... He's got the good head of hair.
Robert DeLeo 1:01
Yeah, it does seem like just... It wasn't too long ago, gosh. Right? It was fun, man. Yeah.
Billy Corgan 1:07
I mean, how did we go? We'll get there. But I listened to a bunch of recent stuff. I've been listening to stuff as it comes out, but I went through kind of like sequentially, backwards. So your solo record, Lessons Learned, which I really, really enjoyed. You worked with a bunch of different singers.
Dean DeLeo 1:22
Yes.
Billy Corgan 1:23
I didn't recognize any of the names of the singers. Did you just find people that you thought were right for the song?
Robert DeLeo 1:27
Yes, friends.
Billy Corgan 1:28
Okay.
Robert DeLeo 1:28
Friends that happen to be very talented singers.
Billy Corgan 1:30
Yeah, lots of friends. I don't have any talented friends. I don't. Stop. I was like, how does he know all these people?
Robert DeLeo 1:36
Yes, just friends. Finding the appropriate people for the song.
Billy Corgan 1:40
Yeah, really nice.

How do the DeLeo brothers reflect on their 30-year music journey?

Billy Corgan 1:42
And then, if I'm saying this is Perdida? Perdida, yes. Not quite an acoustic record, but acoustic-ish? Yeah. What was the logic behind that? Heartbreak. Okay.
Robert DeLeo 1:52
Yeah, a lot of heartbreak.
Billy Corgan 1:54
Was it sort of a grieving...
Robert DeLeo 1:56
I think so. What do you think, Dean? Yeah. Yeah. It's been something we've been wanting to do for a long time.
Billy Corgan 2:02
Was it just a kind of a public kind of, let's just work through some of these things emotionally, musically?
Robert DeLeo 2:07
Yeah. I think, you know, we've always tried to incorporate, like you, try to incorporate, you know.
Dean DeLeo 2:13
Life's tragedies into my music.
Robert DeLeo 2:16
More gentle sides of our talents. Yeah. And I think it was time to just accumulate that all together. Yeah, really beautiful. Thank you.
Billy Corgan 2:25
Of course, that's Jeff Gutt singing on that record. Jeff Gutt. Sorry, Gutt. Gutt. Gutt? Gutt? He's not Gutt, he's great.
Robert DeLeo 2:34
He's Gutt. Very Gutt.

What insights do the DeLeo brothers share about their music and influences?

Robert DeLeo 2:36
He's great.
Billy Corgan 2:37
And then, you guys, somehow you don't name your albums anymore. I don't understand what this is about. We run out of names. Okay, so STP, that album in 2018. With Jeff. First record with Jeff. Yeah. And then I kind of went back through including the High Rise EP with Chester singing. But I saw something that I, and I've been listening to you guys since the very beginning, but I heard something in these last few records that I go, ah, now I get it. If I just was thinking 90s forward in your music, I always think it's the way the guitar and bass interact. Obviously it has a lot to do with your relationship, I think. But that vibe is what I, when I think SPTP, I think guitar's first. Guitar, bass being guitar.
Billy Corgan 3:21
I think that's always, like the guitar always sets the tone. Oh, we're in this little weird part of America, right? Here, we're over here, we're over here. But what I heard in these, your solo record and what I heard in Perdida was like, there's a kind of a, I don't want to say it's the great American songbook. I'm not talking about like Bing Crosby times, but there's a sort of Americana thing in your music that I never really picked up on before. Does that resonate the way I'm asking it?
Robert DeLeo 3:48
Yeah, I think it's kind of transposed in an R&B kind of Americana way. Okay. So kind of a mixture of maybe a—I always think of, you know, Stax comes to mind because it's kind of a southern— I literally just interviewed Sam Moore before you came here.

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