John 5 | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Unknown 0:00
It's all about the music. It really is all about the music. And you can't, I really don't think you can deny greatness.
Billy Corgan 0:09
This is my quote for you. You are uniquely voiced for that circus. It's great. You've always struck me as some sort of, like, island in the middle of the ocean that doesn't need to sort of be thrown around like the rest of us.
Unknown 0:24
The other guys were so mean to me. Like, and I just wanted nothing but for them to succeed. Yeah. Everything's just swimming along. Motley Crue. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Right? It's so weird to even say.
Billy Corgan 0:44
Well, thank you very much. It's nice to see you again. You know, you've done so many things musically, but let's talk about KISS.
John 5 0:52
Yeah. Let's talk about what we really care about.
Billy Corgan 0:56
So someone from your world sent me a clip of you on the news, and I just had to laugh because, you know, it's like... Here we are at the Kiss. And then it's like on local TV, Knights in Satan's Service Museum. And I was like, oh my God, this is so, so meta America. No one realized it had something to do with Satan out on the local news. So am I 2,500 items? Is your...
Unknown 1:24
There's 2,500 items, but if we're counting records and cassettes and 8-tracks and reel-to-reels, then we're well over 5,000. Wow. So, yeah.
Billy Corgan 1:36
Have you thought about, no, it's Satan's plane is flying. Have you thought about, I mean, I don't know your wife, but I mean, at some point does she go, should we put this, like institutionalizing it, making it like an official thing?
Unknown 1:51
Yes, she gives me that sigh of disappointment, you know?
Billy Corgan 1:57
As only a wife can. So... She sees you bidding on something. Yeah, yeah. An auction, right? Sweating. Yes, you know, I have the same problem, so I... People watch my show get mad when I interject myself in other people's things. But I mean, I think we're similar in that we collect a lot of stuff. So when I was reading about you collecting, I was like, that makes total sense to me.
Unknown 2:18
And I can watch things on people collecting anything.
Billy Corgan 2:21
Like thimbles or... Yeah. I think collecting is so fascinating.

What unique collection does John 5 have related to KISS?

Billy Corgan 2:25
And I always... Because I collect weird stuff, but like... Sometimes people say, what do you collect? So I like to collect post-war Japanese porcelain figures. They call them post-war Japan. Interesting. The U.S., in order to get the Japanese economy going again, started buying a lot of porcelain from Japan. So they're literally stamped post-war Japan. Wow. And they look like kind of early anime. It'll be like an American cowboy, but it looks like anime, Speed Racer-y vibe, but from the 50s.

How did John 5 develop his Telecaster tone?

Yeah.
Billy Corgan 2:55
um so but you know as you know when you go down the rabbit hole of a collecting world then there's now you're in kiss world yes now you're in porcelain post-war you know it's like it's really nerdy in there like like oh you don't want that that's that's you know that that came out later that's the reissue this is the real thing right right so um what did you you start collecting pretty early on yeah i started collecting and i i believe that
Unknown 3:20
you know, in my eyes, it's just makes me feel good from my childhood because, you know, you and I grew up and KISS was all over the place and I was, I would collect back then. I would remember going to Toys R Us and thumbing through the dolls and, or the action figures, I should say. Not dolls, but... I could see Gene.
Billy Corgan 3:43
Action.
Unknown 3:44
Yeah, yeah. So, I loved it and I still have been collecting, um, through all this time but what i'm doing is i'm really trying to document and make a catalog of everything i mean like like almost like a master catalog yes and they probably don't have something like that oh no no no i mean i'm talking from every country of like oh my goodness south america and and korea and everything there's 27 different versions of dynasty from korea And it's still in that era of, because I cut off at the Acorn years of 83, the beginning of 83. But I really do, trying to do a, just for rock and roll history.
Billy Corgan 4:31
Yeah. Yeah, because Gene sat in that very chair and he was like, you know, we had two factories in the valley, you know, full-time, 24 hours a day.

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