Micky Dolenz | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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How did Micky Dolenz separate his persona from his personal identity?

Micky Dolenz 0:00
I always separated the person and the persona. I always knew that the fans, the girls, the industry, the magazines, they were in love with Mickey Dons, the drummer on the TV show. Not with me.
Unknown 0:24
I want to try this in a different pathway and hopefully we can bring out some fresh interesting information because I know you've talked a lot about certain parts of your life, but I'd like to talk about some of the other parts of your life, too so Monkeys break up in 1970 was the breakup because the series got cancelled or were you breaking up and then the series got like how did that sequence work and
Micky Dolenz 0:50
Well, the term breakup itself is just incorrect. A group's breakup, the Monkees was not a group. It was a cast of a TV show. So when the show went off the air, when it was canceled, when the show was canceled, the cast... did what all casts do when your series is canceled. You shake and you wave and you, you know, you go your merry way. You stay friends, possibly, with some of the other cast members. But it's like William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy didn't hang out every day going, beam me up! Beam me up for Leonard! So we did stay in touch. And there was some post-series Music that had to be completed. There were some albums that had to be completed. And a couple of tours that had to be completed that we were already contracted for.
Micky Dolenz 1:54
But the bottom line is the Monkees was never a group. Well, you can argue that it became one when we went on the road. It was a TV show about a group.
Unknown 2:07
Okay. So maybe a better way to ask a question is the day you wake up, whatever that day is in 1970 something, and you go, right, that's done. What's next?

What was the Monkees' journey from a TV cast to a musical group?

Unknown 2:20
Like, what's your mindset at that point?
Micky Dolenz 2:22
I only speak for myself, by the way. I'm only interested in your perspective. Yeah, because I'd already been in the business at that time 15 years from my first series when I was 10. I was used to having a show canceled. I'd already had one canceled when I was a kid after three years. And so I kind of knew exactly what to expect.
Unknown 2:51
Are you in your mind at that point, and even now, are you an actor first and a musician second? You know, I mean, like, what's the pecking order in your brain?
Micky Dolenz 2:59
Actor.
Unknown 3:00
Actor. So the first thing you want to do is I need another acting gig.
Micky Dolenz 3:03
Well, actually, no. At the time, I'd already was fed up with acting. It had been 15 years. I wanted to direct. I wanted to write and direct and produce. I'd always been fascinated with behind the scenes, even as a child.
Unknown 3:20
You directed the last episode.
Micky Dolenz 3:22
I directed the last episode and wrote. And that's the direction my mind was going. Okay, that's kind of what I'm after. Production. And I started a little production company, Dolan's Productions, which still have today. And I did a couple of commercials, did a documentary, a few things. Started working, trying to get that going.

What challenges did the Monkees face after their show was canceled?

Micky Dolenz 3:47
I think I kind of knew intuitively I wasn't going to get a lot of acting jobs. I mean, I went to a couple of... Auditions, I remember, right after the Monkees. And I remember one, I walked in and the producer, whoever said, what are you doing here? We don't need any drummers. I'm like, okay, thanks.
Unknown 4:14
I'm such a good actor, you think of me as a drummer.
Micky Dolenz 4:17
Yeah, I played that part really well. But having said all that, you know, yeah, we did become a group in every sense of the word, if touring and recording is a group.
Unknown 4:30
Yeah, I'm more interested, because, you know, again, back to, we've been interviewed a lot of times, people tend to focus at the bright lights, right? I'm in many ways more fascinated with what happens when the bright lights go off. How people react, not to adversity, but a new challenge.
Micky Dolenz 4:47
Got it. I was used to it, like I say. I'd had a show that was canceled. Kind of knew what to expect. And frankly, after those three, four years of just intense work, um being in the eye of the hurricane for three four years and it was and just intense not just filming the show but then recording at night and then going on the road and touring and all that i just wanted to kick back and have a beer for a couple of years and that's essentially what i did it happened to

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