Paul Stanley Pt 2 | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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What are Paul Stanley's thoughts on a KISS biopic?

Billy Corgan 0:00
Do you want to see a KISS biobook?
Paul Stanley 0:04
I'm on the fence about it. I would rather it never happen than happen badly.
Billy Corgan 0:12
I don't want to talk much about your musical partner because he says enough on his own. But when you started getting into other things, I call it like Gene with the ponytail in the movies. Gene? How would you feel about that? Did you see him as being... Remember when Keith Richards was very critical of Mick Jagger? Yeah. You're in the Rolling Stones. What the hell are you doing? Did you have a similar kind of reaction?
Paul Stanley 0:36
Oh, very much. Very much. I felt betrayed.

How does Paul Stanley feel about KISS's legacy and criticism?

Billy Corgan 0:41
So let's start here. I love this word kerfuffle. Do you know this word? There's a recent kerfuffle about you guys playing again. Yes. So I just want you to walk me through that a little bit. The context being you're going to do a thing in Vegas and you guys are going to play it. Unmask, they believe, is the word you use.
Paul Stanley 1:00
Every year we did Kiss Cruises.
Billy Corgan 1:03
And fans love them. I mean, I know 10 people have been on the Kiss Cruises. They love them.
Yeah.
Billy Corgan 1:11
Is that the most fun?
Paul Stanley 1:12
The most fun.

What does Paul Stanley reveal about the KISS unmasked Vegas shows?

Paul Stanley 1:14
And so much fun for me and for us. Honestly, when we first were toying with the idea, I was like, who's going to go on a Kiss Cruise? It turned out many. And we did what they wanted. We listened and created something special. That's what we're doing in Vegas. In terms of why, why not?
Billy Corgan 1:46
I don't care about the why. Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude. To me, the why is when people get into that stuff in our business, they're looking at the long end of the telescope.
Paul Stanley 1:57
Well, also, it's a reflection of a mindset that I'm not a part of. You know, many people live going, why? Instead of why not? That's the opening of the door. We're celebrating 50 years.

How does Paul Stanley describe the experience of KISS Cruises?

Paul Stanley 2:21
There's always a reason to celebrate, but it's 50 years... since the Kiss Army, and it's also a way to stay connected to our fans. We... The people who ask us why we're doing it are the people who wish we wouldn't do it. In the same way that there are people who would say, you know, why did you continue on as a band?
Unknown 2:48
Well... Sure.
Paul Stanley 2:49
You know, so, um... It sounds like a great, fun time to keep going and to continue a tradition. It's basically a kiss cruise in Vegas in a hotel. Sure.
Billy Corgan 3:11
I'm not a doubting person by nature because I just think cynicism is just, it's overplayed in American culture. So the question is not ask what's out. Cynicism comes from bitterness. Agreed. So, um, I'm just curious of your mindset. Uh, it, was it similar to when you guys continued after the farewell tours?

What insights does Paul Stanley share about songwriting and influences?

Billy Corgan 3:33
It's just like, it's our, it's our book to author. And if we want to keep adding chapters, it's all good.
Paul Stanley 3:38
Totally. Um, um, we said that we're, we're done touring. We're, we're, we're done, uh, in those personas. Yeah. Um, that we shouldn't pick up instruments together says who yeah um we're not we're not um and if we did we're allowed to but we're not going against what we said okay um and um I'm not going to be on stage. I see videos from the last tour and go, boy, was that great. But we're not doing that. We're celebrating where we are today and our past with the fans who we love and they love us.
Billy Corgan 4:37
Yeah, I mean, in many ways, you're... It's a blithe way to put it, but your business model is very much its own thing. You guys have always kind of created your own ecosystem.

How does Paul Stanley view the evolution of KISS's music style?

Billy Corgan 4:48
And it's worked very well for you. Other people it wouldn't work well for. I don't think it would work well for us. We're just wired differently.
Yeah.
Paul Stanley 4:57
Yeah. We've always, we've always done things the way we thought they should be done.
Unknown 5:03
Yeah.
Paul Stanley 5:04
Certainly in the beginning we had less control over making those kinds of decisions, but Bill Arcoin, our first manager, he never managed anybody in his life, but it felt right. Yeah. Um, and there are other cases of that happening over the years. And, um,
Billy Corgan 5:24
this might be an unfair question to ask you because, you know, Gene's always sort of, and Gene, when he was here and he sat in that exact same chair, I challenged him and said, you know, you know, in a way you're, you're always talking about money as kind of a weird cover for how you really feel.

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