Sharon Osbourne | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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What childhood experiences shaped Sharon Osbourne's career in music?
I'm not happy at the way the industry's run.
Okay. I love this part.
Never said this to anyone. He got offered to go and read for... And you said no. I said no.
What's your sort of first impression? Did you have an impression of him, the band? Just put me in the room a little bit.
Well, it was packed. It was sweaty. When it started out, I'm like, what the hell is this? I can remember my best friend, who is an agent, said to me, you can't let this go out. This is disgraceful. You've got to stop it. And I'm like, oops, too late.
Yeah, too late. So I've read a lot of biographies about musicians that were born in a post-war Britain. This kind of, you know, there were still bomb sites and kids playing and homes that had been, you know, ripped out of the ground and stuff like that. Do you have memories like that? I guess I'm asking it as a fair question about what you remember about post-war Britain.
Yeah. In fact... the house where I grew up, we moved from there. So from one to 12, I lived in a house that right behind was still bomb sites. Even when I left at 12, there was still bomb sites.
Wow. And what did people tell you? Like... Here in America, it was always the Great Depression. That's what you always heard about. You heard about World War II, but World War II didn't happen here. It was about grandpa went overseas and then didn't want to talk about what he saw, that type of stuff. But of course, Europe lived in the site of the war. So what did that feel like and what did people tell you about the war?
everything was related to the war. There were even, I can remember as a child, there were gas masks hanging as you came into our house where you'd hang your coat, there were gas masks hanging. Still? Yeah.
How did Sharon Osbourne help Ozzy Osbourne break free from an impossible contract?
And there were air raid shelters at the bottom of our garden.
Wow. Yeah. Did that leave an impression on you in any way? I'm just curious.
Yeah, because we all, I mean, we all played on the bomb sites. It was right at the back of our house. There was a whole street that had gone.
Yeah.
And all the kids in the area, you know, it was the time where you did play in the streets.
Yeah.
And we would always be there. And, too, with my husband, he, too, played on bomb sites. Yeah. And it was just very much a part of our lives. It was, oh, you killed Jesus. You started World War II. Yeah. Because being a Jew, it was like you very much got...
Ah, I never thought about it that way. When I was a kid, I heard that, you know, we didn't have as many Jewish classmates where I grew up. But, you know, the one kid that was, they'd say, you killed Jesus.
Right.
We don't even know what it meant.
No, but you used to see it. You heard it, yeah. And I used to hear it and go, this guy, Jesus.
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, because I was thinking about it in knowing I was going to talk to you, because obviously with Sabbath and Ozzy's music, you do feel that growing up in the horror of war. I mean, War Pigs is one of the great anti-war songs of all time. You know, it's in the lyric. And even, you know, the American and UK fascination with comic books and this idea of self-empowerment, superheroes and fighting the Nazis and all this type of stuff, Captain America. But I thought, you know, it didn't strike me that it was part of your story that I know about, but I thought it must have affected you and it certainly affected your family.
Very much. And there was this guy called Mosley and he was a sir and he was a Nazi. And after the war, he was still hanging around in England.
Oh, wow.
What challenges did Sharon face while managing Black Sabbath?
Was he a British subject?
British, yeah. Very, very well-spoken. Used to hang out with the royal family. One of his bestest friends in the world was the king that abdicated.
Right.
And they ended up living near each other in France. So they were always buddy-buddies. And he was a huge Nazi and used to give rallies everywhere in England. And my dad used to go and... there would be fights all the time because the Jewish people would go.
This is pre-war?
After.
After, too.
After, yeah.
Wow, I don't know how anybody could defend that after, but... Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What childhood experiences shaped Sharon Osbourne's career in music?
0:00–2:00
2
How did Sharon Osbourne help Ozzy Osbourne break free from an impossible contract?
2:00–4:11
3
What challenges did Sharon face while managing Black Sabbath?
4:11–6:31
4
How did Sharon Osbourne's relationship with Ozzy evolve over the years?
6:31–8:47
5
What impact did the Osbournes television show have on their family dynamics?
8:47–11:25
6
How did Sharon navigate the complexities of the music industry?
11:25–14:59
7
What lessons did Sharon learn from managing Ozzy's solo career?
14:59–17:50
8
How does Sharon Osbourne perceive success and survival in the music business?
17:50–1:34:08
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