The Bull Case for China: The Best Opportunity Right Now? | Louis Gave
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What is the overall premise of the episode and who is the guest?
China comes into this crisis, I think, better prepared than pretty much anybody out there, mostly through luck. China today has more oil and storage than the rest of the world combined. It has more natural gas and storage than the rest of Asia combined. It has more fertilizer and storage than the rest of the world combined. The reason China has all this is because Eight years ago, the US told China no more semiconductors. And China thought, oh my god, they can block us from this, they can block us from anything. We better store up on everything. Look, if you're looking for places in the world that have uh deep, deep vulnerabilities on their bond markets, uh there's a few countries that stand out. What always matters is the percentage of bonds owned by foreigners.
And today there's three countries that stand out. Uh one is yours, the UK, and yes, Bonyls are going up there. But the other is mine, France, and the third is the United States. Uh these are the three countries that essentially depend on the kindness of strangers to keep the lights on. Now when I look at China today, what I find is the country today that has the lowest cost of capital. The lowest cost of labor. The lowest cost of electricity. And Has the world's cheapest currency and it's not even close. And that makes for a very powerful combination.
Welcome to the Master Investor Podcast with me, Wilfred Frost, where we celebrate and learn from the success of the greatest investors, business leaders, and politicians in the world, giving you, our listeners, the edge. The Master Investor Podcast is sponsored by LSEG, Interactive Brokers, the World Goal Council, and BMY Investments. Please do remember the views expressed in this podcast after. For general information purposes only. Nothing in the podcast constitutes a financial promotion, investment advice, or a personal recommendation. More on that in the show notes. My guest today is Louis Gav, the founding partner and CEO of GavCal, one of the best and most unique research companies in the world, providing market research to buy side firms as well as having their own 6 billion AUM buy-side firm themselves.
And when they were founded in 1998, they had a particular tilt to try and focus on Asia, which they They felt at the time was undercovered, but cover uh all markets globally now. Uh, I've been an avid reader of GavCal research for years since I graduated and joined Newton Investment Management in 2008. They are thoughtful and different and fantastic, and it is a real pleasure to welcome Louis to the podcast. Louis, great to see you.
This was a very, very flattering introduction. I'm very grateful, Wilfred. I think uh only ha about half what you said is probably true, but um if even if half is true, uh it's uh it's very flattering in itself. So thank you so much for this.
Well, you've got uh uh forty five minutes ahead to live up to it, which is good. Uh I've I've set the set the bar high. I I've sort of switched, Louis, my plan on this or i in the last uh six weeks since since the war began, and there's so many uh global topics that I think as as I kind of alluded to in the intro, you write about and think about much more than than so many of uh the commentators we hear from. And I want to get to all of that China, Japan, India uh Brazil uh uh and uh very much more. But need to kick off with the war and the impact that it may or may not have from markets here. You think the most likely outcome is that the US claims some kind of victory and walks away even if tolls exist in the Strait?
Uh I think so. Uh look, let me let me s kick off first with a disclaimer. I'm I'm not a specialist on the Middle East. I I spend most of my time looking at what's happening in in Asia more broadly and and to be honest, more specifically in in China. Uh but what we're really looking at is uh you know, given what's happening in in the Middle East, um how does this impact uh our region? And the rest of the world. And here there's both dark clouds and uh and light clouds. And and silver linings probably perhaps these dark clouds.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the overall premise of the episode and who is the guest?
0:00–6:02
2
How does the ongoing Middle‑East conflict create an “air‑pocket” and inflationary shock for global supply chains?
6:02–11:52
3
Why might the current inflation pressure force a positive US‑China reset?
11:52–17:09
4
What makes China the world’s cheapest economy – cost of capital, labour, electricity and currency?
17:09–22:40
5
Why are sovereign bond markets in the UK, France and the US vulnerable to foreign investors?
22:40–27:33
6
How is the AI boom turning platform companies from capital‑light to capital‑intensive, and does it justify high valuations?
27:33–32:47
7
Why are traditional defence stocks losing relevance compared with cheap drones?
32:47–39:49
8
What is Louis Gave’s overriding investment advice for listeners?
39:49–45:13
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