The Matt Walsh Show
Ep. 1710 - Is The Brown University Shooting Investigation Being Maliciously SABOTAGED?
18 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of the investigation into the Brown University shooting?
Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the investigation into the Brown University shooting has been a debacle, unlike anything we've ever seen before. What the hell's going on exactly? We'll talk about it today. Also, the Attorney General of Minnesota has identified the culprits responsible for all the car thefts in his state, and the culprit is the car manufacturer, of course.
And the House finally passes a bill banning child mutilation. Thank God. All of that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show. Every time you use Facebook or Google, you're paying with your data. These companies track your activity. You use it to sell targeted ads that can influence and manipulate you. If privacy matters to you, there are steps you can take to protect yourself online.
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Chapter 2: How has the investigation been perceived as incompetent?
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People who are so extraordinarily terrible at their jobs to the degree that they cause serious harm to others should be treated just as harshly, if not more harshly, than bad actors who intend to cause damage in the first place.
If you take a shower one day and you end up getting electrocuted, it doesn't really matter from a practical perspective whether your electrician meant to kill you or not when he hooked up your wiring in the bathroom. The effect is that you're dead. The electrician is to blame, and he should pay the highest price for that.
Now, Brown University, the Ivy League school in Providence, Rhode Island, has now crossed the threshold into extreme incompetence that is indistinguishable from malice.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the shooting for conservative students?
So have local authorities in Providence, as well as any federal authorities who are working on the case. On Saturday at 4 p.m., as you may have heard nearly five days ago, a gunman shot 11 people on the campus of Brown University. One of the two victims who died was the vice president of the university's chapter of the college Republicans.
There are reports that she may have been targeted and that she was shot multiple times at close range. And in the aftermath of this mass shooting and possible political assassination, the university and authorities have bungled the case so flagrantly so many times that they may as well be working with the shooter.
We truly have never seen a high profile murder investigation that's been botched as extensively as this one, at least not in recent memory. Now, whether it's being botched deliberately or not doesn't really matter. And therefore, if you're a conservative, particularly if you're an outspoken conservative on campus or at work or anywhere,
That means you need to start taking steps to ensure your own safety. Assume absolutely nothing about the level of concern that your administrators or bosses or superiors may have for your wellbeing. Because the odds are they have no concern for that whatsoever. They'll celebrate your death and they'll let your killer escape. So let's start with this hypothetical.
Let's say that you run the Brown University Department of Public Safety or the Providence Police Department or the FBI's local field office in Rhode Island.
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Chapter 4: What actions have been taken by authorities regarding the shooting?
And then let's say that during a study session in a lecture hall at the local university, which was attended by many students, there's a mass shooting and the shooter runs away. What's the first thing you're going to do in order to identify the shooter? So odds are you're going to do two things.
You're going to check one of the 1,200 surveillance cameras that Brown has admitted are installed on campus to see if they picked up anything. And then while those cameras are being reviewed 24-7, you're going to interview every witness, especially the students who are attending the study session. You're going to talk to every single one of them.
You're going to take statements from those students about what the shooter looked like and what he may have said and where he may have gone, what exactly happened, and so on. And if you don't know the names of the students who are taking the class or who are in the building, you get it from the school. You see who swiped into the building. You check the class roster.
It should take like 10 seconds. This is all common sense. I mean, it almost feels absurd to say any of this out loud because your average third grader would understand all of it. And yet on Wednesday, we learned that the authorities still have not spoken to all of the witnesses in the room where the shooting occurred. This is footage of the Providence police chief, Oscar Perez.
Chapter 5: What are the Attorney General's claims about car thefts in Minnesota?
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Colonel, can you now explain to us, five days later, how many students were in that classroom? Sadly, two lost their lives. Nine other people were encouraged about the update today. But can you now say how many kids were in that classroom? And did the gunman come in from the back so these people never knew it was coming? Or did he come in front with... For you or everybody?
That's all part of the interviews, and actually we're cooperating with Brown to get the roster. That was a study hall, so we don't have the number. We're still getting information as far as who was there. I know Brown sent out an email to the students to notify us if they were present, and we're still getting that, so I can't give you an exact account now.
So he can barely speak English, but it's OK because the Providence City Council made racial equity a top priority after George Floyd's overdose. So don't worry about it. And by the way, while we're at it, here's an image of the head of Brown's police department, a guy named Rodney Chapman, who you can see here on the screen.
Chapter 6: How do car manufacturers relate to the issue of car theft?
And he's been the subject of multiple no confidence votes by multiple police unions in the past year. But don't worry. Like the female president of Brown and the Spanish-speaking chief of police in Providence, Rodney Chapman is diverse. So, you know, it's all okay. Yes, everybody involved in this debacle at every level is diverse, quote unquote. Imagine that.
Now, in any event, the upshot from the police chief's comments, as best I can decipher, is that the Providence Police Department is still trying to figure out who was even there in the room when the shooting happened five days ago, which is an extraordinary admission. I mean, this is the lowest caliber of police work imaginable under the circumstances.
And then he made reference to this statement from Brown University, which was sent out on Monday evening, two full days after the shooting. Quote, the Providence Police Department has asked that anyone who was in Barris and Holly, the building where the shooting occurred, on Friday or Saturday, December 12th through 13th, arrange for an interview. And they provide an email address to contact.
Now, that's a request that should have gone out immediately on Saturday night. And they really shouldn't need to make the request because again, the building should have been locked down immediately and everyone should have been identified on the spot with a class roster or with the access card readers or with cameras.
But if that's not possible for some reason, then you still need to conduct the witness interviews immediately one way or another. Instead, the police and university waited 48 hours to reach out to potential witnesses.
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Chapter 7: What recent legislation has been passed regarding child mutilation?
And 100 hours after the fact, they still haven't conducted those interviews. Now, there are only two possible ways to explain this delay. Either the police and the school want to assist the shooter in making his escape. That's one possibility. We can't rule it out. Or everybody involved is criminally incompetent and needs to be fired and treated as if they were accomplices after the fact.
These are the two options. When you zoom out and consider the timeline of this debacle, you really can't come to any other conclusion. First of all, just hours after the shooting, the authorities announced that they had identified a person of interest in the shooting. His name and photograph were plastered everywhere. It was a white guy who had some military experience.
And within 24 hours, they released him, saying they didn't have enough evidence to hold him. And after that, the first surveillance images of another potential suspect surface from ring cameras in the neighborhood. And this new suspect looked absolutely nothing like their first person of interest. The new suspect was much, much larger, much less physically fit.
Chapter 8: What are the broader societal implications discussed in this episode?
So right away, that raised the question of why they suspected the white guy in the first place. And then on Monday, the authorities conceded that the shooter had shouted something. shot at something that many, many people would have heard. But they refused to say more. They also didn't address speculation that the shooter may have shot at Ala Akbar, as some outlets had reported.
Instead, they gave a vague and kind of equivocal response. Watch.
Now, there's a report the shooter yelled something right before his shot came in. Could you tell us what that was? Yeah, it's part of the investigation, John and Wilk. The only reason I ask that, though, is... For instance, like with the Unabomber, his brother recognized the writing. So it's possible a friend or family member might recognize if the person said something that was significant.
Correct. That's why you don't, other than the 9mm, is there anything else? inside that auditorium that you were telling us? No, that's correct. And listen, like I said earlier, investigations will bring us to evidence that we need to collect in order to be able to prosecute. With that being said, with that being said, we're going to continue to collect evidence.
And if it leads us to something to that nature that's going to be extremely helpful for us to identify somebody, we'll be the first ones to put it out.
Now imagine if the shooter had yelled or even been rumored to have yelled something like, this is MAGA country. Is there any doubt they'd tell us that within like five seconds of the shooting? All of their hesitation and doublespeak, it's all so obviously fake and performative at this point. And of course, when you get doublespeak and nonsense, you get an information void.
And when there's an information void in every single case, it gets filled with speculation for better or worse.
So as it became clear that the authorities weren't going to share any meaningful information, internet sleuths got to work and they identified as a potential person of interest, a Brown student and self-described Palestinian refugee with a very public profile whose body type was a rough match with the surveillance images. And this new individual is clearly a radical leftist.
He had social media accounts with exotic personal pronouns, sympathized with Hamas, boasted about his extensive work at, quote, the intersection of queer studies and Palestine studies, which seems like it has to be some kind of parody, but it's real. The intersection of queer studies and Palestine studies is a bit like the intersection of transgenderism and the Taliban.
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