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The Matt Walsh Show

Friendly Fire: Gavin for President, Greenland for Sale

16 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 13.749 Matt Walsh

From Amazon, MGM Studios comes Melania. Every protocol, every precaution, every move coordinated. This new film takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential inauguration through the eyes of the First Lady herself.

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14.21 - 23.322 Matt Walsh

The briefings, the planning, the private conversations witness what it takes to secure her return to one of the world's most powerful roles, Melania, only in theaters January 30th.

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23.707 - 27.432 Gavin Newsom

Gavin Newsom just tweeted something out about me that's hilarious. Really? You think J.D.

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27.452 - 35.764 Matt Walsh

would mog Gavin Newsom? Yes, I do think he would mog him. I'm really enjoying Neocon, Matt Walsh. I have also been lusting after Greenland my whole life. I don't buy that.

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35.784 - 36.385 Gavin Newsom

Oh, come on.

36.405 - 38.447 Matt Walsh

I know it's uncouth to say it, but like, am I wrong?

38.467 - 41.011 Gavin Newsom

For Media Matters, he's joking. It's not true.

41.452 - 45.037 Unknown

He's not joking.

49.723 - 65.855 Ben Shapiro

Matt, first time that Matt wants to talk foreign policy, so I'm like... I'm all ears, man. Let's do it. I mean, no, don't put it all on me. It's more for you guys to talk about. Normally we mention any place that is outside the United States, and I can see Matt's eyes glaze over.

Chapter 2: Will Gavin Newsom be the next president?

244.887 - 266.037 Michael Knowles

If only we had waited a little longer to make it, we could have shot it in Greenland. Just a beautiful, beautiful series. And, by the way, if you go check it out right now, you can go to dailywire.com slash shop and get the Pendragon Cycle Rise of the Merlin board game, which is very, very cool. Depending on how long this goes, maybe we can all play it together, guys. I love board games.

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266.077 - 271.604 Michael Knowles

Send me one of those. Wow. It's good. This is looking, I don't know, we spent some money on this. This is a nice looking board game.

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Chapter 3: What civil rights movement is Matt Walsh calling for?

271.704 - 285.4 Michael Knowles

Anyway, go check it out right now. Become a Daily Wire Plus member. January 22nd, it all happens. And then possibly in January of 2029, our whole country falls apart if Gavin Newsom becomes president.

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285.5 - 290.345 Ben Shapiro

It turns out that series is the only thing more ambitious than Gavin Newsom.

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290.366 - 291.046 Michael Knowles

We have a trailer, right?

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291.066 - 292.728 Ben Shapiro

Play the trailer.

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292.748 - 301.168 Andrew Klavan

What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God? Is that who you think I was alone with? There is a new part of work in the world.

Chapter 4: What is the history of slavery discussed in the episode?

301.669 - 305.914 Andrew Klavan

I've seen it. A god who sacrifices what he loves for us. I learned of Yezu the Christ.

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Chapter 5: Why is Greenland a topic of interest?

306.095 - 308.618 Andrew Klavan

And I have become his follower. Trust in Yezu.

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308.658 - 312.043 Unknown

Great light. Great darkness. Such things mattered to me then.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Denmark's stance on Greenland?

312.443 - 321.756 Andrew Klavan

What matters to you now, mistress of lies? The Pendragon Cycle. Rise of the Merlin. A seven-part series. Premieres January 22nd. Only on Daily Wire+.

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323.17 - 331.941 Ben Shapiro

I mean, it is as good or better than anything that you will see on HBO, and you won't get the gratuitous sex and the insane nihilism.

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332.021 - 332.943 Drew Hernandez

Oh, then I'm out.

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334.144 - 336.848 Ben Shapiro

I'm sorry. I know. It's a massive disincentive for... Oh, wow.

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338.009 - 356.931 Matt Walsh

Well, no. Because they said we were going to play the Pendragon trailer, and they came in and gave me this fake sword. I said, what is this for? So this is a bit where I'm supposed to pull this. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this, but they gave me the sword and said, well, you could do a bit where you have a sword. What's the bit? Like, I have a sword. What am I supposed to do?

356.951 - 357.271 Matt Walsh

I don't know.

357.291 - 360.916 Drew Hernandez

If the police show up looking for the lady in the lake, that'll be an exciting change of pace.

360.936 - 364.72 Matt Walsh

Does anyone in my ear want to tell me what the bit is with the sword? Is there a thing I'm supposed to be doing with it?

366.442 - 366.623 Drew Hernandez

No.

Chapter 7: How does Gavin Newsom handle criticism?

1307.866 - 1329.631 Michael Knowles

I do think this guy is very, very talented in that he came up as this Ohio guy, this guy who wrote a very famous memoir about his lower class upbringing, and he goes on, succeeds at very high levels. He plays well in Silicon Valley. He plays well with rural people who want industrial policy. He plays well, I think he's got a lot of talent.

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1329.791 - 1346.853 Michael Knowles

But this actually gets to my point vis-a-vis Newsom, which is, Newsom is overestimated. We're all talking about how slick he is. The thing he's most famous for in politics is just being really deceitful. And Nicki Minaj had that whole line, she goes, oh, he's so sexy, he's so slick, he's so this.

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1347.253 - 1364.118 Michael Knowles

So I think he's being overestimated in the ways that people overestimated guys like Beto O'Rourke, these also-rans who fell away. I don't think it's always great to be the top guy in the race a year or a year and a half out. But second of all, there was a great interview once between Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

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1364.638 - 1383.291 Michael Knowles

And Clinton said, he goes, you know, George and I have benefited from the same thing, which is we've both been underestimated. Me, because I'm a nice guy, and they thought I was all nice, and they thought he was kind of dumb. And you think about the winning presidential candidates. They tend to be very underestimated. Trump doesn't know anything. He's totally ignorant.

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1383.371 - 1384.574 Drew Hernandez

Go ahead and run, Donald.

1384.754 - 1390.909 Michael Knowles

Right, yeah. Barack Obama, he's black in a racist country. Bill Clinton, he's bubba. Bush is stupid. Ronald Reagan's a cowboy.

1391.17 - 1396.322 Drew Hernandez

On that subject, though, I have to say, last time we were here, which is not that long ago, I would have...

1396.302 - 1422.715 Drew Hernandez

bet money and i'm not a betting man but i would have bet money on jd vance being the nominee right this minute i'm a little uncertain if that if we're actually talking about the next nominee because he's not you know every time i mean trump has been very going very hard on foreign policy and he has people around him in the press conferences mostly rubio and vance is nowhere to be seen because vance is one of these guys who's trying to take maga and turn it into isolationism which it never was i don't i don't buy that

1422.695 - 1426.483 Drew Hernandez

Oh, come on. Where is he? Where is he? Why isn't he in these meetings?

Chapter 8: What strategies are discussed for J.D. Vance's campaign?

3295.132 - 3316.355 Matt Walsh

That's a different conversation. Maybe they could work something else out. I will just say, though, that... It's interesting to me when people today get so offended by the very notion that we would try to acquire land, that we would try to grow sort of the empire, and in particular that we would try to do it by force.

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3316.395 - 3340.397 Matt Walsh

It's interesting when people are so offended by that because how do you think America right now as it's currently constituted came to be? You know, America became what it is today, the continental United States plus Hawaii and Alaska. That happened through purchasing land in some cases, going to war, taking it by force, displacing people, kicking them out and taking the land for ourselves.

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3340.417 - 3363.203 Matt Walsh

That is how this country came to be. We conquered this land and we did it because we believed that, you know, manifest destiny. It's what God wanted us to do. We knew that, you know, the American empire should reign. And we had leaders who were looking out for the interests of our people. And that's how the entire world has taken the shape that it's taken. This is the way that it goes.

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3363.544 - 3378.64 Matt Walsh

So that doesn't mean that I'm going to support any effort to just go and conquer land, but it does mean that I'm not gonna automatically rule it out because that's the only way that America exists in the first place. So it's worth talking about.

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3378.66 - 3384.788 Ben Shapiro

I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm really enjoying Neocon, Matt Walsh. This is like my favorite version of Matt Walsh.

3384.808 - 3385.969 Gavin Newsom

This is really exciting.

3386.049 - 3390.835 Ben Shapiro

It's not Neocon. I know, I'm joking, Matt. I would never call you a Neocon. I know, I know.

3390.855 - 3394.601 Matt Walsh

Of all the things to call me, that's... I'm looking forward to war with Denmark.

3394.621 - 3397.566 Gavin Newsom

Globalist show. I think that's going to be exciting. Matt Walsh, they got him. They finally got him.

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