Ep. 883: A New History of Lewis and Clark
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this is the meat eater podcast coming at you shirtless severely bug bitten and in my case underwearless you can't predict anything brought to you by first light when i'm hunting i need gear that won't quit first light builds no compromise gear that keeps me in the field longer no shortcuts just gear that works Check it out at firstlight.com. That's F-I-R-S-T-L-I-T-E.com. Welcome, everybody. Today, we're going to dig way in on the Lewis and Clark expedition, which comes up all the time on this show. I don't know if you know. Of all the interviews you're going to do, how many interviews have you done so far?
Too many to count, but we'll get into it here for sure.
Okay.
This is going to be the one.
Remember how I was just saying to turn those off It's all good. This is going to be the one. This is actually important, but not as important as Lewis and Clark. Not as pressing. Of all the interviews you did, this is going to be the one where the audience knows most about what you're talking about. I love it. That's a guarantee. Unless you go to the Lewis and Clark Remembrance Association or something like that.
Well, see, I have talked to them, so it'll be a good time.
Next to those suckers, this is going to be the most informed audience you're going to talk about. You've got a brand new book out, This Vast Enterprise, and we're joined by craig firman who wrote a book prior that i would be way less inclined to read but still interesting author his a previous book author in chief the untold story of our presidents and the books they wrote but how many books have they written again too many to count
Yeah.
How did you pick which ones you wanted to talk about?
I picked the ones that were interesting. So with Teddy Roosevelt, you know, would focus on his outdoor writing, his great nature writing, and then focus on when he wrote about the War of 1812 from like a naval perspective. Because that book is still important to historians today, even though Teddy Roosevelt wrote it when he was at Harvard as a student. So I would just pick the presidents that were most interesting, pick the books that were most interesting. And then that book sort of also told the history of communication. Like when I was writing about Reagan, I was also writing about the rise of like Walden books and how bookstores and malls changed the kinds of books people wrote. And so Jimmy Carter wrote a bunch of books, but a lot of books, but unfortunately he's only like a couple of paragraphs in my book because he was operating in the same world as, as Reagan.
So like with Carter, he was one of the first people to use a word processor. You know, he would have like these floppy disks that could hold 12 pages on it. And he had to pay thousands of dollars to bring this giant microwave size word processor into his house. So Unfortunately for Mr. Carter, I only focused on the word processor, not the books, but I wanted it to be a good story. Who's your favorite president? Lincoln. Lincoln? Yeah, I'm from Indiana. What else am I going to say?
Oh, man. I thought he's like Land of Lincoln's Illinois.
Well, the Midwest fights over him quite tenaciously.
Oh, was he born in Indiana?
He was born in Kentucky. So I'm telling you, it's tough stuff.
Yeah, I'm good.
So why do you say Indiana? Well, because he has formative years were there. And so like a lot of the stories we think about with Lincoln, like,
trading in some ears of corn to get a copy of a book and then the book gets waterlogged and he has to work even more to pay off the book that all happened in indiana so the big stuff i mean it's it's big to me i yeah no that's great that's great i like those people that get um i like those people to get claimed by a lot of places right there's a lot of them all through time you know like like aldo leopold sure
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–6:36
2
How does Craig Fehrman's book differ from previous works on Lewis and Clark?
6:36–17:05
3
What new insights does Craig Fehrman bring to the Lewis and Clark expedition?
17:05–52:54
4
What challenges did Sacajawea face during the expedition?
52:54–53:15
5
How did Sacajawea's choices impact her relationship with Lewis and Clark?
53:15–54:11
6
What insights do the journals provide about the expedition's dynamics?
54:11–55:22
7
How did the expedition affect Lewis's mental health and relationships?
55:22–1:49:07
Speakers
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