The Megyn Kelly Show
Exclusive Comey Case Details, and Cringe Meghan Markle Profile, with Link Lauren, Eiglarsh, Holloway, and Merchant | Ep. 1198
20 Nov 2025
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live from Bakersfield, California. We are out here for the final leg of our Megyn Kelly Live Tour. You can still get tickets if you go to megynkelly.com. There's a few left. Bakersfield tonight, Anaheim tomorrow, and then we finish in...
Phoenix in Glendale, Arizona with Erica Kirk and Walter Kern on Saturday night. It's beautiful out here. I have to say, you know, every time you come out to California, you're reminded why people live out here. And then you remember like Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom and you say, no, snap out of it, snap out of it. No beautiful mountainous views in the distance are worth that.
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And thanks to all of you guys for doing the tour with me on earlier stops. It's wonderful to have you.
It was awesome to be there. It was so fun. I think the show was amazing. Everybody should definitely go.
I love the question and answer period. Yes, yes.
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Chapter 2: What are the key details of the James Comey case?
as required for another vote, that they needed another vote. They already approved those two counts.
Yes, and it might not, right? Just so we're clear, legally, a court may find that it's totally okay. But the argument will be that the law requires the entire body of the grand jury to approve whatever's ultimately there for prosecution. And if you cut corners because you want to get Comey, be prepared to have the law changed so they can cut corners on someone you really love and care about.
And again, just to remind the listening audience, my exclusive reporting today is that they did not cut corners. They actually did have the entire grand jury approve the new issue to count indictment.
And that that was all on the record with the magistrate judge that the magistrate judge confirmed with a four person on the record in open court that everyone on the grand jury voted on the indictment that has two counts, which does. I don't know whether it's the same magistrate judge that they're in front of right now. I don't think it is.
I think it's a different magistrate judge that handled the grand jury proceedings.
But I mean, that does sort of make you wonder if that's there and the magistrate judge, let's say she can just show the current magistrate judge and the district court judge, Ashley, here's the transcript that shows the earlier magistrate judge who dealt with the grand juror asking the foreperson, did the entire grand jury approve this?
And that foreperson is saying, yes, they did, that the entire grand jury approved of the indictment that has just the two counts. That should be the end of this nonsense, no?
It should totally be the end of this nonsense. And because there's other judges bringing it up, they're trying to undermine the indictment. They're trying to undermine the entire process. And that gets out, you know, the world is watching, the world is listening. And so any juror, potential juror on this case is going to know about that. They're going to have heard that. It's all over the news.
So it's really prejudicial when a judge is trying to intervene in such a manner and really put their thumb on the scales of justice.
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Chapter 3: How does the judge's conduct impact Comey's case?
So he not only posted that on Instagram, but he talked to the Daily Beast and there was a podcast in which he said similar things. And the Daily Beast took down that podcast after hearing from Melania Trump's lawyers. But Michael Wolff did something else.
Michael Wolff, instead of backing down, filed his own request and action, a legal action, a case, for declaratory judgment, which is kind of what you do when you know you're about to get sued and you'd rather be the plaintiff than the defendant. You beat the would-be plaintiff into the court, and you say, I'm the plaintiff, and I demand a judgment saying I did nothing wrong.
So that's what he did, and he's in there now saying— I didn't do anything wrong. I did not defame anybody, and I want a judgment to that effect. And he's going after Melania, standing by what he said in that clip. Anybody have thoughts on whether what he said in that clip is... is per se defamatory or could form the basis of a defamation case, given that he started it with, Epstein told me.
Well, if I can take that first, Megan. Look, what he said, and you've got to, setting aside the absolute atrocity, like the atrociousness of what was said, I think it's just reprehensible, the things that he said, but setting that aside, you have to look specifically specifically at the very words that were used.
And this, what we just played in that SOT, is a mixture, if you will, of opinions and allegations of fact. And in order to prevail on a defamation claim, it has to be essentially a false statement of fact. And of course, there's some nuances to that. A false statement of fact. And the burden of proof is on the plaintiff.
In this case, it would be Melania to prove that those were false and, in fact, defamatory. So you mentioned that he's gone to court first. There's a type of law called a SLAPP statute, and it stands for Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation. And the word strategic is in there for a reason, because as you pointed out, this allows the would-be defendant to go into court first.
And then he has to prove, now that he's the plaintiff though, he, Wolf, is going to have to prove that his comments were not defamatory. So he's basically changed the burden of proof, if you will. I think it was probably not a good idea to do that. The best thing to do would have been to just take it down and move on as the letter from Melania Trump's lawyers asked them to do.
That would have been the smarter thing. But now we're in court and we're going to have judges and all sorts of people back and forth debating, is this a fact or is this an opinion? Oh, and by the way, if all we're doing is regurgitating the words of Jeffrey Epstein, then Wolf is going to say, technically, my statement is true because this is exactly what Epstein said.
And that's why this is going nowhere. If you're repeating defamations.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Link Lauren share about Melania Trump and Usha Vance?
But I'm here to tell you, like, I can spot a fake and a phony. I can spot a fake Birkin. I can spot a fake person. There was nothing fake about her. And I was like, okay, she's not rushing. She's not breezing through. Every kid is getting time. She was not phased at all. The kids were jumping and throwing things. So no, I absolutely have the utmost respect for her.
I also thought the second lady Usha Vance was really cool too. I hadn't ever seen her.
By the way, Link, can I just say, if second lady Usha Vance were second lady in a Democrat administration, she already would have been on the cover of several magazines. She's stunning. She too is the epitome of class.
Chapter 5: How do political double standards affect media coverage?
She's got amazing style and she happens to be a minority, which normally the left loves. They love to celebrate it. She gets a hero's welcome when she walks in during this Thanksgiving visit with North Carolina military families at Camp Lejeune. I'm going to show a little bit of it here, Satu. It's her MLI. Aw. Aw. Okay.
Do you remember, it wasn't so long ago that they tried to sell us on Michelle Obama and second lady, then Jill Biden being the iconoclasts of style that we were supposed to look up to for every boot they donned on their feet. And it was a lie. I mean, everyone saw that it was a lie. Meanwhile, you've got these two knockouts walking in there. Right. No one's going to profile them.
Chapter 6: What criticisms are made regarding Meghan Markle's recent profile?
They're not going to be on the cover of magazines. They're only going to be covered in dripping vitriol from virtually every publication that writes about them because of who they're married to and the fact that they're Republicans.
No, absolutely. I probably do a video or a segment on the podcast every single week about this. That's why I was so excited when they called and said, do you want to come? Because something I've covered a lot and I cover a lot are the double standards in politics, right? I did this with the tariffs, right? Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, there were a thousand clips of them fighting for years.
They wanted tariffs for decades. We want tariffs. We want tariffs. The second President Trump said he wanted tariffs, all hell broke loose and they were fighting him tooth and nail, right? First Lady Melania Trump, she's self-made, she's an immigrant, she speaks five languages. Usha Vance, her family immigrated to this country the right way.
If they had a D next to their names, of course they would be on the cover of Vogue by now 15,000 times. But what do they do? They put Jill Biden, Michelle Obama on the cover of Vogue. And this is how liberal women treat conservative women, right? I just did a whole thing on this.
Liberal women will absolutely attack conservative women, which shows that all of the female empowerment, feminism, dress for success stuff that they talk about is a bunch of BS if you don't extend it to women who happen to vote a little bit differently than you do or happen to be married to a Republican, right?
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Chapter 7: How do celebrities like Meghan Markle and Lizzo navigate body positivity?
So that's why I just don't buy into all of the liberal feminism.
And I was excited to see them. Just to jump in on it, also, Usha Vance, in addition to being stunning and a mother and a wife, is a very successful attorney. She was at the top of her Yale Law School class. That's why she wound up clerking for Supreme Court for United States Chief Justice, John Roberts. You don't just give that job to anybody. While pregnant, I mean, like...
Normally the left will be celebrating her universally. And by the way, I don't even know what her politics are. You know, like she doesn't talk about her politics a lot. I think she might be an independent and not really even necessarily a Republican, but who cares? She won't get any accolades because she's married to JD.
So whatever, we're used to it, but it's always worth pointing out because those two women are worthy of celebration and no one else is going to do it. Okay, speaking of Democrats on the left who will never praise people over on the right, Jasmine Crockett. She's run out of actual villains over on the right, so she's starting to make them up.
Trying to say somebody like a Lee Zeldin, who almost became governor of New York four years ago, a Republican, now he's Trump's EPA administrator, took donations from Jeffrey Epstein. Now, we ran this soundbite yesterday. The problem for Jasmine Crockett is not the Jeffrey Epstein. from a guy named Dr. Jeffrey Epstein.
I think I've been to a Dr. Jeffrey Epstein before in New York. I mean, who hasn't? Yeah.
So she got caught. I mean, she's an idiot. She doesn't do her homework. She's careless. And she got caught. And I said yesterday, she's lucky she said that on the house floor, accusing Lee Zeldin of taking donations from the Jeffrey Epstein because he could sue her. It's not true. And it is defamatory. And you can't sue her, though, because she was on the house floor when she said it. And now
Here she is out there trying to cover it up, trying to pretend she didn't make the error, that like it was intentional and she knew what she was saying might be wrong. In an interview she gave Wednesday to CNN, it's SOT3.
Do you want to correct the record on the people? I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein, just so people understand when you make a donation, your picture is not there. And because they decided to spring this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that they didn't even try to go through the FEC.
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