The Megyn Kelly Show
Kamala Celebrates Herself, 1/6 Pipe Bomber Details, and Future of Film Industry, with Stu Burguiere and Zachary Levi | Ep. 1209
09 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We've got a big show for you today. Actor Zachary Levi will be here to discuss his new movie and how the RFKHHS is doing as year one comes to a close. A new poll just hit on him.
But first, there is news today on the suspected January 6th pipe bomber, and it's a doozy. courtesy of the New York Post. We are learning some very strange things about this guy's background. Plus, why didn't the FBI track him down thanks to that cell phone tower data earlier? Remember when Cash was on last week and he said that's how they got his name?
They did the cell phone tower tracking and his name emerged. So his number was sitting there all along. It didn't take much to then get a name from it. Why didn't Chris Wray do that? Seriously, why didn't he do it? Why? Well, we now have some more information on that.
And you will not believe how far left Democrat Jasmine Crockett plans to appeal to Texas voters in her just announced Senate campaign. If you heard AM Update this morning, you got a little preview. And we have got Stu Bergeer here to tell us if she's got a shot. He's a Texas man. Stu is host of Stu Does America on Blaze TV. Think about December.
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Chapter 2: What new information is revealed about the January 6th pipe bomber?
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Great to see you as well, Megan. Thank you.
I'm sure you're feeling all warm and fuzzy about Jasmine Crockett as your possible next Texas State U.S. Senator.
I will say this, Megan. I absolutely adore the fact that she's running for this office. I want her to run for every office. I want her to go state to state and let everybody experience the glory and wonders of Jasmine Crockett. I can't love her any more than I do. And she's completely nuts.
That, just as a standalone, is an objectively true sentence. And I share it.
It really is. I find her incredibly entertaining and so bizarre and just the perfect like distillation of everything about the modern Democratic Party. Like it is she's she never, ever knows what she's talking about. Ever. There's never a moment she even slips up and connects with something that might be accurate. It's so incredible.
And what's great about her, I think, is the fact that you could be a – we know Republicans. We know Democrats. We know people who are in Congress. Many of them slave away for years and years and years and years. Democrats are – Working on, you know, some health care expansion and they're working on, you know, how do we reverse 0.9 degrees Celsius temperature rise over a century?
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Kamala Harris's statements?
I can tell you her accounts are just blatant lies, he writes. Then I asked, says Alberta, whether he felt betrayed. Quote from Shapiro. I mean, she's trying to sell books and cover her ass, Shapiro snapped. The governor stared past me now, shaking his head. As I began to ask a different question, he held up a hand. He looked disgusted. With me? With Harris? No.
I began to realize he was disgusted with himself. Well, Shapiro just got asked about that by a reporter on MS Now on Monday. Here's how that went in SOT 18.
Former Vice President Kamala Harris here. It says, I mean, she's trying to sell books and cover her ass. Sorry, standards. Shapiro snapped. I shouldn't say cover her. Word I shouldn't say on standards. I think that's not appropriate, Shapiro said. His tone was suddenly collected. She's trying to sell books, period. What were you trying to signal in that moment, sir?
You want to parse this out for us?
There's no parsing. Look, I stand by what I said. I think the way in which the author described my emotion, frankly, was not accurate. But the words are mine and I stand by them. I think what was relayed to me by that author that the vice president had written about me just simply wasn't true. And I think the vice president and I had very and continue to have very candid conversations.
And I think the way in which It was articulated to me what was said was was certainly not accurate.
No one likes her. That's the bottom line, Stu. Pete Buttigieg doesn't like her now. Gavin Newsom was just taking a shot at her. Josh Shapiro basically called her an asshole. She's made more enemies than she had even when she was running, which is not how you become the Democratic primary winner.
No, it's true. And it's I guess maybe the strategy, if if if there is one and we're assuming there is, maybe the strategy is to try to paint these people she views as potential opponents in that primary in a negative light. Right. Like, hey, you know, they weren't supportive. They didn't help. She keeps doing this to people who almost definitely are running for president.
I mean, Shapiro is going to run. Buttigieg is going to run. I would be really surprised if both of them didn't get in the race.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of interviewing controversial figures?
Oh, yeah.
If I want to do a contentious interview, I know how. This just seems pointless to me. Like... To me, it's like, you want to cross-examine reasonable people who are taking an outrageous position on something, you know, like someone who's like gettable, someone who you might actually find fundamentally decent, but who's just gone like off the deep end on something.
That's something, somebody I would talk to, but I don't really want to talk to crazy. And I don't really want to talk to, I'm just subversive looking for attention. It's not that interesting to me.
Yeah, I mean, you know, you interviewed Vladimir Putin, right? Like, this is a person that has really awful views.
Anthony Weiner.
And I think is, oh God, even worse.
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Chapter 5: How does Nick Fuentes's popularity impact political discourse?
But yeah, you know, there is value in interviewing someone who, particularly someone who has power. And, you know, I'm not saying that there's no... case for an investigation on what the phenomenon is, if there is one. I mean, there's some belief that it's a little bit overstated, which I tend to agree with.
I run in conservative circles, never met anybody in my entire life who brought up anything about Nick Fuentes that they watched the show. I mean, they probably exist. I don't know, but I've never met anyone.
He's become like a David Duke figure. We're like, you know the name, you know generally what he stands for. It's not really something you're going to spend any time with.
Yeah. And I don't know, Megan, is it okay? Because I see a lot of people posting online about the back and forth between what you're supposed to do in these moments, right? Like you're supposed to take him on at full strength and make sure everything he says is denounced and everyone who talks to him, you denounce them. And And I can understand that argument.
I really do think his views are absolutely terrible. And I see another side of people who are fighting back and saying, no, it's a really important phenomenon. We need to talk about him constantly. And I guess there's some validity to that view as well. At the end of the day, though, do I have to be interested in everything? I have a life I live.
I've got kids at basketball games and baseball games and gymnastics meets. Do I really have to come here and try to make a case that the Holocaust happened? What year is this? It's so true. It's just flatly uninteresting to me at the scale we're at. It seems like you feel the same way with it. I just like, I've heard about it.
I'm done with it. That's how I am about conspiracy theories too. Like I could spend all day. If you want to take on somebody's favorite conspiracy theories, you could devote your whole show to it every day, debunking each latest iteration of it. Who wants to spend their time like that?
It's utterly pointless, by the way, because you can't talk people who believe conspiracy theories out of their beliefs of those conspiracy theories. They don't respond. Like the truly conspiratorial thinkers do not respond to hard facts that disprove their theories at all. They just find a way around them. They find a new way to justify them.
I mean, you truly would be better just banging your head against your desk.
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Chapter 6: What are the potential risks of vaccine mandates for children?
So it's like, why not? Why do it? Why not spend the time delivering facts? what you know is real news that actually might affect people's lives and let those chips on these other things fall where they may. It's just, it's America, you can be crazy. It's America, you can be racist. It's America, you can be subversive.
And what we can do is use the law when someone like a Nick Fuentes gets into, let's say, a hiring position and those views are unleashed on a staff position or a staffer, somebody working for him. Now that's illegal, but it's not illegal to have his views And it's not illegal for him to be popular, which he is amongst a certain contingent. And they know.
That contingent knows better than you and I know what he actually stands for because he makes zero attempt to hide it, especially on his show. So even if you go over to Tucker's show or whoever's show and you manage to act like you're kind of a normie, as soon as somebody tunes into your actual show and you're Nick Fuentes, they're going to hear exactly what you stand for.
He is not shy on his show. He says it all. It's shocking. So anyway, I just thought it was sort of an interesting social situation where somebody did the thing they wanted of Tucker. I don't think it'll change anything.
Chapter 7: How does Zachary Levi's new film reflect themes of hope and survival?
Yeah, I tend to think the same way. And I understand some people feel really passionate to call out every one of these things. I'm glad there is the other side, that if people are searching, the very few that could be convinced, I'm glad that those views are out there. But I was reading a piece by Coleman Hughes recently. I don't know if you talked about that. Yes, I read it.
I haven't talked about it. Very good. And he's, you know, he's fantastic. And I think he had a really good breakdown of this and kind of talked about Nick Fuentes. He did another video about how Nick Fuentes has one opinion on, you know, his show. And then he comes to mainstream podcasts and he changes that.
And that might've been what Pierce was getting at there saying, okay, you're on a mainstream podcast. Now, you know, don't soften it. Let me ask you these direct questions, which maybe there's some value to. But, you know, I think about Coleman Hughes. He wrote a book. His most recent book was about race and it was excellent.
Like it is, I believe, an important book, a book that like America should know about and should understand how to really dissect a topic like that. That's difficult. If you don't know Coleman, he's an African-American guy who but he's talking about race in a really sensible way and solving, I think, a lot of these problems and making real impact on it.
You know, if anyone read it, right, like, you know, we Nick Fuentes, his views on these things are getting a hell of a lot more publicity from the left, the right, the middle and everything else. And this incredible book that came out like last year that should have been much more in the spotlight and much more part of a serious conversation. Like I
I'm not saying that someone who's literally threatening to imprison people based on the race is not a threat. You should take those people seriously at some level. But he's also a goofball. And I don't know what to believe about it. If we lose the battle on whether the Holocaust happened, we're lost as a society already. And I don't know if there's anything to repair.
Maybe instead of spending another 25,000 segments on Nick Fuentes, go back and read the Coleman Hughes book. That's something really serious and did some real work on race. and encourage people to pick it up and read it.
Yeah. I don't, it's just like, I know Jews feel targeted by Nick Fuentes, not for nothing, but women are just as targeted in his rants. So are blacks. It's like, I'm sorry, but this is America and people are allowed to say terrible things about us. It's, that's life. It's fine. They think he's been mainstreamed. I don't think he's been mainstreamed. I think Tucker took a
look to see why he was growing in popularity. But now there's a question about whether he even is. I saw an interesting report on X the other day suggesting a lot of his support has been somewhat overstated.
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