The Megyn Kelly Show
MAGA vs. Establishment Over Hegseth, and Key SCOTUS Case About Protecting Kids, with Michael Knowles and AG Skrmetti | Ep. 958
Thu, 5 Dec 2024
Megyn Kelly is joined by The Daily Wire's Michael Knowles, host of "The Michael Knowles Show," to talk about whether Pete Hegseth will remain Trump's Defense Secretary nominee, the growing tension between the political establishment on both sides and outsider candidates, why if Hegseth falls RFK Jr. and Tulsi could be next, Sen. Joni Ernst’s is trying to tank the Hegseth nomination behind-the-scenes, whether she wants the job herself, if Ron DeSantis could be swapped in as the nominee or if MAGA will push back, the growing feud between Morning Joe and their guest David Frum, Frum's joke about Fox News and Hegseth that started it all, Esquire forced to correct and retract an article based around a presidential pardon for George H.W. Bush's son Neil that never happened, The View host Ana Navarro hilariously writing about made-up person "Hunter deButts" getting a pardon from Woodrow Wilson, and more. Then Jonathan Skrmetti, Tennessee Attorney General, to talk about the Supreme Court arguments yesterday in the highly contentious case regarding "trans medical care" for minors, the apparent partisan divide on the issue among the Supreme Court justices, what the result of the case could mean for "trans" issues in America, and more.Knowles- https://www.dailywire.com/Skrmetti- https://x.com/agtennesseeTuttle Twins: Visit https://TuttleTwins.com/MKMy Patriot Supply: https://PreparewithMegyn.comPrager U: Join PragerU’s fastest-growing podcast. Subscribe to Real Talk with Marissa Streit on your favorite podcast platform or watch at https://l.prageru.com/419fE2mFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What is the status of Pete Hegseth's nomination?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Well, 24 hours ago, literally this time yesterday, I was in Washington, D.C., for an exclusive sit-down with President-elect Trump's nominee to lead the Defense Department, Pete Hegseth. As you know, Pete's now in a political dogfight to save his nomination.
At this point, his future remains unclear. If you believe some in the media, he's done enough now to secure Trump's continued support. Others suggest he does not have the votes. and say Trump could pull a switcheroo and name Florida Governor Ron DeSantis in Hegseth's place.
Our pal Mark Halperin, who has excellent sources and has been right on just about everything this year, said the following this morning on his show, The Morning Meeting.
I heard from a very good source today that by the weekend, Ron DeSantis will be the nominee for defense secretary. One source. I'm not telling you it's definitely true, but that's certainly the case. However, if you go on X, you will see another cavalcade of strong supporters for Hegsip.
who are making this a test of Donald Trump's fidelity to MAGA, and they find it insulting that someone who MAGA has turned on bigly, Ron DeSantis, would possibly replace someone who casts himself at least as full-on MAGA.
Mm-hmm. Whatever the case may be, Hegseth is not going down without a fight. This morning, he posted the following on X, quote,
Maybe it's time for a Secretary of Defense who has led in combat, been on patrol for days, pulled a trigger, heard bullets whiz by, called in close air support, led medevacs, dodged IEDs, and understands to his core the power of this photo because he's been on that knee before.
For those listening to this show on Sirius XM or via podcast, the photo shows two soldiers kneeling in front of a rifle and helmet, honoring a fallen friend. Joining me now, Michael Knowles, host of The Michael Knowles Show. The Tuttle Twins' biggest sale of the year is about to end. You know what makes these books special?
They've sold millions of copies to families across the country because they tackle big ideas like free markets, individual liberty, and limited government, explained in a way that kids actually get.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of replacing Hegseth with Ron DeSantis?
So it's not that Trump's going to be unreasonable on this, but this can't go on. Like there's like I say, When we get to Tulsi, they're going to be telling us she is a Russian foreign agent. They're going to be tens of anonymous sources in news articles saying she's got this connection to Bashar al-Assad and this connection to Putin and she's compromised and the no-fly list. And like...
This is these Republicans are going to have to find their steely spines or he's right. They will be primaried. They will be primary. Thanks to Charlie. They will be primary. Thanks to Elon. And thanks to all of us who are sick of losing like this.
Yes, you know the letter is already being written. 51 former and present intelligence officials know that Tulsi Gabbard is a secret KGB agent and the leader of ISIS. And we have proof because this whole charge came to us first from Hillary Clinton. People forget that. This whole Tulsi's a Russian asset nonsense, that was just a line from Hillary Clinton in 2020.
It's totally, well, I suppose the Russia hoax against Trump was also a line from Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she was, ironically enough, colluding with the Russians to get that Steele dossier. So it's just such bunk, Megan, and it's not going to stop. By the way, it's not going to stop with Tulsi Gabbard.
Whoever the next person they put up, that person's going to have a whole dossier of mostly nonsense thrown at them, too. So it really is not a question.
Then they'll get to Marco Rubio and Elise Stefanik and say, oh, yeah, they're acceptable. And then they're going to say, see, we're so reasonable. We said he could have a couple of them. It's fine with us because there are more establishment types. And so it's all the core MAGA that do come with, you know, some colorful resumes and histories in some cases. It's kind of I don't know.
I just feel like the rebel strain within MAGA produces that, but also produces a willingness to bust things up, which is why he got elected. So they're going to be just fine with establishment types and try to look like the grownups in the room. But when the true MAGA acolytes get in there, it's going to be bloody. Okay, I wanted to show you this.
Something very weird happened about Hegseth over on MSNBC. David Frum goes on there and makes a comment on Morning Joe on Wednesday. I mean, it wasn't a nice comment. It was kind of a stupid throwaway. There's a story around it. Watch Thought 9.
David, I'll start with you on this. What's your sense of where the exit pick is headed here?
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Chapter 3: How do personal histories affect political nominations?
and by people within the Biden administration who are lobbying for the most ideologically aligned outcomes rather than delving into the evidence and making an evidence-based decision about what's best for kids.
It's truly horrifying how our medical organizations have been captured by these activists who are trying to set policy for our children, for the chopping off of body parts for the most vulnerable among us. And then confused parents go to a psychiatrist, a child psychiatrist or psychologist for help, and they are put on a path of severe danger.
Yeah. And I mean, it's just, it goes to a broader problem with America's elite, which maybe is outside the scope of this conversation, but they are just divorced from reality. We're supposed to embrace evidence-based medicine. We're supposed to look at the evidence when making those determinations. And this is kind of a Trojan horse. It's
you know, they dress it up to look legitimate in every possible way, but it's empty in the middle. I guess it's not like the Trojan horse at all, actually, but they're transporting these radical ideological beliefs in the guise of legitimate medical research, and that is having a really profound impact on thousands of kids. The numbers have gone up
spectacularly, very dramatically, a 4,000% increase in adolescent girls looking for hormone treatments, according to one researcher. And as the numbers go up for unexplained reasons, more and more evidence comes out showing that this is harmful Other countries have pumped the brakes.
And here we are with the White House, with the major medical associations, with the American Bar Association, with all sorts of very powerful institutional players in this country pushing in the other direction, essentially trying to get everyone to ignore the evidence and pursue this ideological end at great cost to children.
They are the enemy. They are the ideological enemy. And their so-called expertise must be challenged because it is not coming from a factual or trustworthy place. Thank God you see that. And so do these other states. Almost half the union is on board. So one thing, it does look like
I mean, for sure, when the Trump administration begins, the support of the government for the trans argument will go away. That could cause some procedural snafus that could be to your benefit. We'll have to see. But it doesn't look like the case will go away. I agree with you. It looks like you're going to win.
Um, good justice Gorsuch who gave us Bostock, which said you can't discriminate in hiring when it comes to trans people. Didn't say anything yesterday. Interesting, potentially troubling, but I think you got him. I'm going to guess you got him because Bostock said we're not making any pronouncements beyond hiring of trans people, but what's going to happen now? Because if, if you win, we're
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