The Megyn Kelly Show
Mamdani vs. Cuomo, Michelle Obama's New Whining, and Bombshell UFO Reporting, with Victor Davis Hanson | Ep 1174
17 Oct 2025
Megyn Kelly is joined by Victor Davis Hanson, host of "Victor Davis Hanson in His Own Words" on The Daily Signal, to discuss Andrew Cuomo’s weak performance during the mayoral debate, his failure to confront radical leftist Zohran Mamdani, Mamdani's persuasive attack on Cuomo's COVID failures, how Zohran Mamdani could convince wealthy New Yorkers to support him as mayor like other socialists have done in the past, his attempts to clean up his past anti-NYPD comments, new disturbing details Jay Jones text scandal, his failures on the debate stage, shocking allegations about Letitia James harboring a fugitive and felons at her properties, her family member who appears to be an OnlyFans model, the hypocrisy of James portraying herself as a victim after weaponizing the law, Michelle Obama’s comments about not feeling like she belonged at Princeton, how her remarks unintentionally undermine affirmative action, her ongoing racial grievances and public complaining, a new documentary alleging an 80-year UFO cover-up, shocking claims about reverse-engineered UFO technology, Rep. Tim Burchett describing insane military stories about UAP encounters, a wild alien communication interview flagged by Walter Kirn, and more.Hanson- https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/victor-davis-hanson/the-end-of-everything/9781541673519/Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldRiverbend Ranch: Visit https://riverbendranch.com/ | Use promo code MEGYN for $20 off your first order.Byrna: Go to https://Byrna.com or your local Sportsman's Warehouse today.Pique: Unlock your healthiest glow and feel the difference. Get up to 20% off for life Visit https://Piquelife.com/MEGYN. Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShowFind out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. The one and only Virginia attorney general debate was last night where Democrat Jay Jones was confronted about his texts fantasizing about killing Republicans and their children.
in which he doubled and then tripled down on that sentiment in his exchange with a Republican lawmaker in Virginia. That, however, was not last night's only debate. Last night in New York City, the mayoral candidates squared off where Muslim socialist Zoran Mamdani criticized Andrew Cuomo for not visiting a mosque. What in the actual F?
Since when do American politicians have to go visit a mosque in order to be considered viable candidates for office in New York, by the way? OK, 24 years after 9-11, it's it's at that you have to go visit a mosque to be met. No, you don't. And Andrew Cuomo, grow a pair. Why don't you look over at him and say, I don't have to go visit a mosque. All right. I live in America.
It's a Christian nation. I'm fine with Muslims, but I certainly don't need to go and listen to Allahu Akbar while people are on their knees five times a day in order to run this city. Zoran. It's like everybody was ridiculous last night. Curtis Lewa was the only one who you could possibly see doing this job. He was totally likable. But of course, he has no chance because it's New York.
And they while they used to sometimes elect more moderate Republicans like Giuliani and Bloomberg was at first and went independent. Now they wouldn't. Now they just won't. They're intent on self-destruction. So this guy, Zoran Mamdani, is going to win. And then I guess we're all going to have to visit mosques if he has his vision.
Plus, President Trump critic John Bolton is now facing decades in prison for allegedly mishandling classified information. He denies he did it. Well, no, he actually technically doesn't deny it. I mean, if you listen to our AM update this morning, which you should, We laid out his denial, and it is a classic example in deception, in my opinion.
And you know that I've taken the Phil Houston class repeatedly. He's the human lie detector, CIA deception detection architect, 25 years there, unearthing double agents and cross-examining bad guys and terrorists. Gitmo and beyond. And Phil Houston, I mean, I can't wait to show this statement to him of John Bolton's denial, quote-unquote denial.
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Chapter 2: What were the key points of the New York mayoral debate?
There's no denial in it. He does not deny that he printed out, kept, and transmitted classified information, which is what he's accused of. He says his behavior was lawful. He gets into talking about his character. Hello, that is a red flag. We've talked about this. If you say to me, Megan— Did you rob the bank this morning? I don't say, I'm a good person.
My parents would never raise a bank robber. It would be wrong to rob a bank. I say, no, I didn't rob the bank. Period. Listen for this one simple thing because it's such an easy method of detecting, potentially, deception. The true Phil Houston way is there have to be at least two of these signs of deception within the first five seconds of the question being asked. That's generally how it goes.
But you can apply it to a written statement so the timing thing is flexible. And you would look for multiple signs of deception, which there were, which there were in his statement. The other thing he does is he goes on the attack against Trump. That's another sign of a liar. This is my opinion. He may be telling the truth. I don't think so.
But again, back to my bank example, I wouldn't then say, and you're a bad person for raising this. You're constantly accusing others. And you used to beat people up when we knew each other back in middle school. So you're nasty. You're in no position to cast aspersions at me. What is... I wouldn't say that. I'd say I didn't rob a bank. No. I didn't do it. I might say...
Go look at my phone records. It'll show you exactly where I was. Something like that resorts to proof, something that would uphold truth. That's what a truth teller does. They run to the thing that will unearth what is real. They don't go into character defenses and go on offense attacking this person. It's just not how a truth teller sounds.
And that the Bolton statement is a classic example in all of it. And it doesn't even have a denial of the actual charges. He says he behaved lawfully, seems to be a characterization. of his conduct, not a denial that he engaged in it. So, all right, we'll get back to that.
Also, J-Lo's back in the news complaining about never truly being loved, not by one of her, I think, six, five or six husbands, maybe four, and the other two are fiancés. We'll get into it, but very interesting soundbite, and my favorite soundbite of the day, and it's perfect for our guest today, Michelle Obama.
Wait until I show you the Michelle Obama, the pair of soundbites that we have queued up for her. There's no one better to discuss all of this. And I mean that. Nobody uses my next guest in the right way, in my view, because he's an expert on so much. They stay always with the hard news.
But he always has something interesting to say when you talk to him about things happening in our culture, from J-Lo to Meghan Markle and beyond. I speak, of course, of Victor Davis Hanson. He is a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution and host of Victor Davis Hanson in his own words, which is a new show on The Daily Signal.
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Chapter 3: What allegations are made against Letitia James?
So is this a new one? Yeah, we did. We just moved from the Just the News platform to the Daily Signal. But as you know, when you move, there's all these keys and everything and the name. And so it was kind of complicated. But we're now, after a two-week hiatus, we're back.
Well, we will find you wherever you are. That is worth the trip and the new follow button. Okay, there's so much goodness for us today, Victor. I'm so excited to have you here. Might as well kick it off with the mayoral race because that debate was actually very interesting. Just the personalities that were on stage, really interesting.
I thought it was interesting how Curtis Lewa kept saying, this one's the architect and this one's the apprentice. Like Cuomo is the architect of all these terrible policies and Zora Mamdani wants to continue them all but has no experience to do it. He sounded somewhat reasonable, though didn't want to kick the illegals out of New York. But people were raining hell on him, Lewa, for that.
But it's like that's what a Republican looks like in New York who could even be considered. You can't sound like Tom Homan and even have – Any hope? So he did what he needed to do for where he's going in this race.
Okay, but the real contest was between Cuomo and Mondami to see if Cuomo could unseat Mondami and make some sort of headway to change the dynamics of this race in which he's behind by some 15 points. So that's the question. Did that happen? I'm going to kick it off with some sound. Here is... Well, I guess we might as well start with number one since I teased it. Here it is.
You know, it took Andrew Cuomo being beaten by a Muslim candidate in the Democratic primary for him to set foot in a mosque. He had more than 10 years, and he couldn't name a single mosque at the last debate we had that he visited. And what Muslims want in this city is what every community wants and deserves. They want equality, and they want respect.
And it took me to get you to even see those Muslims as part of this city. And that, frankly, is something that is shameful and is why so many New Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.
Yeah. Except that is totally false. I worked with the Muslim community for many, many years. Name a single mosque you went to when you were the governor. Can you name a single mosque you went to in 10 years?
Before you were ever here. Before I was here? Before you were even in state government. I worked with the Muslim community. Imams presided over state of the states. We worked in religious working groups, tolerance groups, anti-Semitic groups, etc. Victor.
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Chapter 4: How does Andrew Cuomo respond to criticisms during the debate?
He didn't drive 105. How many people, Megan, have you ever met drove 116 miles an hour? That deliberately was saying to people, I'm going to drive this fast, and if anybody is in my way, they're going to be dead, and I don't care. And then when he was sentenced— He used his own pack or this thing that was related to him for the community service. It wasn't real community service.
No, it wasn't. Everything about him is distasteful. He reminds me of Mondami. He's trying to smile and be smug, but he never comes to terms at the state. As you say, the head law enforcement officer of Virginia is telling the people of Virginia, I have threatened to kill people. I would like people to be dead, little children. And I have driven 116 miles an hour.
And anybody else who did that would be in jail for a year for reckless endangerment, et cetera, felony. And I didn't have any consequences really at all. In fact, I used that sentence for my own political advantage. It's just, it's disgusting that he's even on the stage.
He has no respect for the rule of law. He's made that clear. That did come up, that incident, the reckless driving incident last night. Here's Meares raising the issue in SOP 15.
The reality is that Jay Jones was in court for going 116 miles an hour on Interstate 64. Four people were in court that day, were going roughly the same speed. Three of those four people got suspended or active jail sentence. But Jay Jones is a politician, and he asked the court not to give him any of that, to give him community service. And instead, we now know he misled the court.
That community service, it wasn't done for a charity. It was done for his own political action committee that he controlled.
Jay, if you were to apply to be a line prosecutor in not just my office, any attorney general office in the country, you would not pass a background check. And right now, you may say that you are sorry. But look back at what happened. You had three years to say you're sorry, Jay, and you didn't.
That's very effective to me. I'm just going to say one thing. Jason Mraz got an issue with the hair. It's like greased down. It looks kind of greased down and smushed to his head. I'm sorry. I'm rooting for him, but it looks a little like off. a little smarmy. I like someone needs to do something about that because women do respond to things like hair and that needs an intervention.
I don't know what his, maybe they're too afraid to tell him. I'm not too afraid to tell you, sir, you need to get rid of some of that oil out of the hair gel, whatever you're doing, you've overdone it. It's okay. If it's like a little fluffy, you went too far, but your rhetorical points are excellent.
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Chapter 5: What criticisms does Victor Davis Hanson have about Michelle Obama's comments?
So he'd always say, you know, some of the best doctors in the United States were African Americans in the 1950s, because you had to be on a level playing field. And I said, is that true now? And he says, no, maybe I have to find other groups that have been oppressed, and therefore they've come... He didn't approve of that. He was just remarking on the irony of it. And so...
I don't think it's going to end well for the Democrats. And you can see that they know it and they know that they are alienating the population and all of these issues, crime, the border, illegal migration, they're not polling well. And what they have to do is they either have to change, I'll be frank, change the demography in their own words.
We have 55 million people that were not born in America now. It's the highest ever. And then percentages too, 16%. Or they have to change the system. They're trying to change the filibuster or the electoral college or the Supreme Court composition. Or they have to just to create what they're doing now, chaos on the shutdown the government system.
bomb Tesla, have these riots, create so much chaos that the average American just gets in a fetal position, puts his hands over his ears and say, make it all go away.
Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to Andrew Cuomo and Zohran Mamdani's debate?
I don't know who started it. I don't know how it happened. But if Trump is involved, let me just get, I just want out of it. I just want calm again. That's their strategy. But it's never... It's never, we are individuals. We're going to be judged on our individual merits. We're going to have compassion for those who don't do as well as we, but we're not going to mandate equality.
They never say that. But they have to have a self-perpetuating victim idea because they don't have confidence that they're going to get the same income, the same privileges, if they drop the victim status. They love it.
They revel in it. I mean, we did find the video of Sonny Hostin's house available because she filmed it and put it online. Here it is.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of the UFO documentary revealed in the episode?
Okay, for the listening audience, it's a mansion. It's got top-of-the-line cabinetry and tiling and the beautiful wooden staircase leading up to a window seat with all beautiful windows looking out over what I'm sure is a huge lawn. Now we get, like, her art. Okay, whatever. So Sonny Hostin has it made in this amazing, beautiful house built obviously a multimillion dollar property.
And yet she wants you to know that Her lived experience as an Afro-Latina in this country is that we are all racist. That she has proof white supremacy is alive and well because of these morons in some group chat who somehow she wants to elevate to representative of the country and certainly of Republicans.
That's her. She should go to East Palestine, Ohio and tell people that. And just say, you know what, you guys are all, you've done all these bad things to me and you're just... So well off because of your white privilege. Well, it's not.
It's, of course, not just her.
Chapter 8: How does Hanson relate personal experiences to broader societal issues?
There's I'll get to Michelle Obama in a second. But there's a guy running for for the let's see, it's it's the main Senate race. Susan Collins has not stated whether she's going to run for reelection. So right now there are eight declared Dems running in the primary.
And one of them is this guy, Graham Plattner, former Marine infantryman, later served as an Army National Guard soldier and private security contractor. Starts off well. It goes downhill from there. High profile endorsement from Bernie Sanders, outspoken economic populist.
And the K-Files' Andrew Kaczynski of CNN unearthed a bunch of comments he has from an Internet forum subreddits in which he calls himself a communist. He dismissed all police as bastards and said rural white Americans actually are racist and stupid.
And now he's trying to dismiss these as like, oh, I was just disillusioned and angry, you know, kind of like I was younger and they don't really reflect who I am. It was 2021. Yeah. I'm not sure we can get away with the youthful indiscretion text excuse when it was literally four years ago and he doubled down on them repeatedly.
This is so what she's saying, you know, like the Republicans are racist. My lived experience is white supremacy reigns in America. And here you have this guy going out there saying white rural Americans are as racist and stupid as you might think. They're they're the ones saying the quiet part out loud. and showing us what they think of our country.
All right, just, I don't wanna spend time on this guy because I really do wanna get to Michelle Obama and you and I have a lot to go over. A couple of weeks ago, I did a fact check on the attacks coming down against Charlie. Nicole Hannah-Jones and many others have raised this comment
without giving the context where he said, they said, oh, he says black women don't have the brain processing power to make it in life. Um, and that those who went to Ivy league universities stole a white person's spot. Now that's, that is totally out of context. You have to hear what Charlie actually said, because of course he was talking about affirmative action.
in which, yes, indeed, when it is given to a black or a brown person and it's given to them based on skin color, a place in a university, it absolutely is, quote, stealing a spot from either a white or an Asian. And we know that because there was a whole U.S.
Supreme Court case in which whites and Asians brought a complaint saying we're the ones being disadvantaged systematically by places like Harvard and it's illegal. It's illegal race discrimination against us. And the Supreme Court agreed, 100 percent agreed that Um, here's the Charlie comment, and then I'm going to show you what Michelle Obama just said.
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