The Megyn Kelly Show
Nick Reiner Defense Ahead, and Brown U. Shooter Inaction, with Arthur Aidala and Matt Murphy, and Leadership Traits with Dakota Meyer | Ep. 1215
17 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What new evidence has emerged in the Nick Reiner case?
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There is new video of Nick Reiner, the accused killer, their son, taken after the murders. What defense could be in store as Nick hires a very high profile and successful defense attorney? Plus police releasing new images of the suspected shooter at Brown University. But... Kiitos, että katsoitte.
Has he been defamed in the way Richard Jewell was for the Atlanta Olympics bombing back in the 1990s? Okay, but we're going to start with this bombshell report from the Washington Post about Charlie Kirk's accused killer. It literally just broke. The Post reporting that Tyler Robinson's mother...
We knew this said that he had become more pro gay and trans rights oriented and that one person who knew him said he began to voice concerns for transgender rights after Trump's win in November 2024. I think that piece is new. But the Post has done a deep dive on messages from the online platform Discord, where Robinson discusses Charlie's murder.
Soon after it happened, and we'll tell you what he said. We begin today with MK True Crime contributors, Arthur Aydala and Matt Murphy. Arthur is a managing partner at Aydala, Bertuna and Caymans. Matt's a former homicide prosecutor and author of the book, The Book of Murder.
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Chapter 2: How did Tyler Robinson's actions before the shooting raise concerns?
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Kiitos, että katsoitte.
Arthur, Matt, great to see you guys. Hi. They only watch because Matt's so handsome. They're not watching from my big bald head, Meg.
You're no slouch yourself. You look pretty straw this morning. I tried to do a tie up, anything to distract from the dome. Matt gets all the fan mail. You're just being modest. What we do, but we don't publicize it, is you have to be at least a nine to even make it on NK True Crime. So you're selling yourself short. That's Ashley Merchant, but we can talk about that another time. That is Ashley. Ashley, she's a ten. Yeah.
Here are a couple of highlights from this Washington Post report, which is actually pretty extraordinary on Tyler Robinson. Here's just like an excerpt. This is the Washington Post trying to call him. The reporters have been calling him since he got put in jail. He doesn't talk.
He talked to him, just waiting for some sort of a reaction, which appears not to have come. I can't answer any questions, he said to the Washington Post reporters. You're welcome to talk. In four calls spanning about 40 minutes, he maintained that disciplined approach, listening silently as a reporter described what friends and acquaintances had said about him.
He did not audibly react to hearing that Kirk's wife Erica had publicly forgiven him. He did not react in any audible way to the fact that Kirk had been awarded the Medal of Freedom. Eventually, Robinson asked that the reporters communicate with him only in writing. He did not respond to messages sent to the jail's email system, and his attorneys declined to answer questions for this report. But they do report...
And to me, I've got to say, overall, this looks to me like the Post's attempt to try to say, he wasn't a lib. He was a conservative. You guys probably haven't a chance to read it, because it's very lengthy. But they give lip service to the mother's statements, the mother, to her statements, that he had become much more enamored with pro-gay, pro-trans ideology in the year prior to the murder. They have to mention that, because it would be journalistic malpractice not to.
And it's been alleged in the indictment. And then they spend the rest of this piece trying to prove that he was really apolitical. And his friends who knew him said, well, we didn't really see any of that. But then they do talk about the fact that he was holding his trans furry lover roommate who was crying about all the hatred towards trans people as Tyler Robinson stroked him and tried to make him feel better about all the hate that it was out there.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Brown University shooting investigation?
A meme. But really what they're writing about is a guy overall who was kind of listlessly going through life. He dropped out of Utah Valley or the Utah University he was in. It wasn't UVU where Charlie was killed. But he dropped out. He became...
A tradesman, I think electrician learning that trade and was seen on site bawling his fists up, you know, walking around with his fists balled up to the point where his coworkers would say, Tyler, what's wrong with you? And he'd say, oh, that's just something I do. I'm fine. But he would eat lunch alone. The only thing that ever animated him was guns that he would get really interested in. There are some text exchanges with his friends about guns.
The election and how, let's see, there's fake news around it. He thought Joe Biden might have been winning on the night of the election, but he wasn't sure. Here's one friend writing to him in the fall of 2020. I wish there was a simple solution against fake news, but there isn't. I have my own opinions, but that's it. Robinson, pretty much see if there are any sources cited and check the accuracy. If really any of it's not true, then it's fake. Friend, I understand freedom of speech and it's cool, but it makes it so media can lie about anything. Robinson.
I wish at least shit like anti-vax wasn't protected under freedom of speech because it's speech that actively harms people. Talking about the anti-vax messages doesn't really sound like a conservative to me. After Trump was almost assassinated, they quoted a Robinson text saying,
Which they do note that as all of his friends said they thought was a joke. Where he wrote, snowflake liberals can't shoot straight because they're too busy being gay. Of course Robinson did appear to be gay. He was having sex with his male roommate who had declared himself female and was a furry. And then they point out that he...
The roommate, his roommate, viewed Trump's election, this is his boyfriend, as a loss for trans rights and was distraught. More than once a friend said he saw Robinson cradling his sobbing roommate in his arms. The roommate would erupt at friends who came to visit who would say things about boys and girls sports, shouting repeatedly to shut up as Robinson sat nearby on a couch. The group went quiet before their gaming eventually resumed.
Sitten he puhuvat siitä, kuinka hän teki kärsimyksen juuri ennen Charliea tappamista. Tänä päivänä 10. septembrista, kolme päivää myöhemmin, kun hän oli online, mikä ei ole tärkeää.
Robinson had made the drive north to Utah Valley University. That's where Charlie was killed, according to prosecutors. He texted his wordle score to his friend at 11.28 that morning. At 11.51 he allegedly walked onto campus and then made his way onto the roof of the building in the courtyard below. A crowd had gathered to hear Charlie at 12.23 p.m.
I mean, it's remarkable. So the Wordle score was texted to his friend at 11.28. Less than 60 minutes later, he shot Charlie, according to prosecutors. At 12.23 p.m. came the crack of a single shot. As a student pressed Kirk on his views of transgender people and mass shootings, Kirk slumped backward. At 9 a.m. that morning, that very morning,
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Chapter 4: How does Dakota Meyer address leadership in today's society?
Sent Robinson the friends world resorts. He'd gotten share in just two tries. Robinson replied 21 minutes later. It had taken him three. It was their last exchange. He's getting ready to shoot Charlie. He's doing the wordle. He's exchanging texts about the wordle. And then, of course, he would shoot Charlie in the bullet. The bullets would include messages like, hey, fascist catch. OK, so that those are the highlights, you guys.
All of this is interesting because clearly the shooter's friends are starting to speak out to the media in drips and drabs. And I do believe there's an attempt by the media to try to divert the narrative away from he was a leftist. I don't know. He may have been a righty much in the way that Tyler Crooks, who shot Trump.
Wait, not Tyler, Thomas Crooks, was a righty for a period of time, but then had shifted left, notably leftward in the last year before. That's also what appears to have happened to this guy, Tyler Robinson. But what comes in of what I've just said, and is any of that relevant to you guys? Arthur, I'll start with you. Well, from a human point of view, it's relevant about how sick this guy is. I mean...
Toivottavasti yhteisössä olemme pärjänneet konseptia siitä, mitä on tapahtua tappamaan toisen ihmisen. Jos katsotaan, mitä tapahtui Bondi Beachissa. Joku, joka otti ristiriitaa esiintyjään, ei tullut tappamaan toisen ihmisen tappamista. Se on paljon tarvetta tappaa jokaisen. Ja se, että pelaat pelin.
a word game moments before you're about to kill anyone. To a jury, if you're trying this case, if you're Matt and you're the prosecutor, it just shows you how... Tämä kaveri ei kuitenkaan kuitenkaan huolta. Vastauksessa haluaisin puhua siitä, kuinka syvällä hän tietysti oli. Se, että poliitikot ja mediat yrittävät ymmärtää, millaista tiimistä hän oli,
To me it's upsetting. It should be everyone on the planet earth should condemn what happened. Megan, I haven't watched the video because of Charlie getting killed, because it's too disturbing to me. But I have watched at this point hundreds, and I'm not exaggerating, of Charlie Kirk videos. And boy, oh boy, what a cool guy he was and the way he conducted himself. And it's hard for me to believe that someone...
who believed in the same things that Charlie did, and Charlie was clearly on the conservative side of things, although I hate all of these labels, would execute him. So good luck to the media saying, oh no, he was really a lefty who's killing him. He's really a righty who's killing him.
Tämä koko trans-yhteistyö on minusta erittäin yllättävää. En ole helppoa. Sanoit, että olet hirviöinen. En tiedä, mitä se tarkoittaa. Se ei ole oikeastaan järjestelmä. Ei.
It's been explained to me that people who have anthropomorphic features, they want to be half human, half animal, and they masquerade around in animal gear. They want to be treated like animals, they want to make animal sounds, and it's related to their sex lives as well. It's like a sexual fetish, and it is very closely linked with the trans community, too.
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Chapter 5: What challenges do military personnel face regarding mental health?
Tiedän, että oikeastaan heidän mentaalisuudessaan se on kutsuttu mentaalisuuteen. Tämä on Al-Tharidallin mielestä. Jos se on se, mitä ajattelet, miten sinun pitäisi mennä elämään niin kuin aiemmin mainitsit, niin se on mentaalisuuteen. Ja ehkä hänen tutkijat voivat yrittää tuoda sellaista tukea edelleen.
Well, I mean, I think they're more likely to be pointing the finger at everybody. I mean, you know, it's like, I think the defense is going to try to say, you know, I mean, it was this guy, it was that guy, it was the other guy. It wasn't sweet Tyler, who never had a violent moment, who, you know, was some sort of a patsy. I don't know what they're going to argue about Tyler. I have little, I have no doubt that Tyler Robinson committed this crime. And I think he will be convicted. But does any of this come in, Matt Murphy? Like, or is it irrelevant? Because the prosecution doesn't need to prove Mo
And if to the extent they do, it's written on the bullets and in his confession.
Yeah, it is relevant, Megan, and here's why. It shows such a cavalier disregard, just like Arthur just said. This can come in, they've got to attack Menzreha, they've got to attack what he's thinking at the time he does it, which means they can either go with a voluntary manslaughter, he's so outraged by the things that Charlie Kirk is saying, and I'm with Arthur on this, if you watch his videos, he is center-right,
He are trying to engage in the American art of debate. He's trying to sway people with words and he's respectful to everybody. So that is going to come back and hurt him. If I'm the prosecutor on that, that's a great fact. Because that shows that he's cavalier when he's not angry, he's playing wordle. He's not so outraged that some position or something that Charlie Kirk said, that they're going to be able to say, hey look, he is coming at this from...
a perspective where he's trying to defend the honor of his partner. So I think there are a lot of ways it can come in. It can also come in, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, Arthur, if you disagree, but if they try to go with some mental health defense on this, that's a big roadblock for the same reasons, right? Because he's cogent, he's, I mean, and Wordle's tough, right? And if he's bragging about his Wordle score, that means his brain is working. There's, for
Mutta katsotaanko, jos minä olisin puolustajana, minä sanoisin, että tämä on varma, että hän ei tehnyt sitä. Katsokaa, kuinka kylmä hän on. Hän ei tehnyt sitä, hän ei ollut siellä. Tiedätkö, toivon, että he menivät puolustajana, Megan, koska se on niin selvää, kun menetetään faakseja tästä asiaa ja kirjoittamista, joita hän kirjoittaa myöhemmin. Se on hänen vanhempansa rauha, joka muuten on 100-vuotias Mauserin rauha.
Joten kun kaikki tämän jälkeen tullut sotilasjärjestelmä, josta kaikki haluavat mennä, kuten näemme nyt Australiassa Bondiissa, me voimme ratkaista tämän enemmän sotilasjärjestelmää. Tämä on tavallaan sotilasjärjestelmä, jonka suunnitelma yleensä yrittää olla sotilasjärjestelmällä. Se ei ole vääränlaatuisia, kuten se kutsutaan Kaliforniassa. Tämä on vanha sotilasjärjestelmä, joka on edelleen todella tehokkaita, koska ne ovat metallit.
Mutta toinen asia, mennään takaisin Washington Postin kirjalle, ja olen täysin samaa mieltä kuin Arthur. Ensimmäisenä kirjassa on oikeanpohjainen poliittinen aktiivinen Charlie Kirk. Ja tämä on jotain, jota olemme kuulleet paljon mediassa viimeiset muutamia päivinä Robin Reinerin huonoa asiaa, jota tiedän, että olemme menneet siihen.
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Chapter 6: How does Dakota Meyer define strong leadership for the next generation?
että me olemme eläneitä, ja se ilmastaa kaikki luettelijat toisella puolella, mitä se tarkoittaa. Ja Arthur on täysin oikea. Hän on ihminen, erityisesti kun joku on kuollut. Ja toivottavasti olen katsellut sitä. Olen nähnyt paljon videota, joissa taitoja on tapahtunut. Mutta jokainen, joka on kiinnostunut vihreästä maailmasta. Minulla oli yksi näistä tapauksista. Se oli järjestetty yliopistoni Westminsterissa. Se oli vihreässä yhteisössä, ja se oli hirveä triple shotgun slaying.
city of westminster and it's a it's a weird world there's an episode on the on the show entourage on hbo where one of the one of the guys uh meets a furry and it's a woman who um sends him a rabbit suit uh because that's she's into the the sexual side of that and and it's actually that's a that's a comedy it's worth worth a watch uh if you want to educate yourself in a yeah i don't think arthur's tuning in on that there's a lot of things i would like to learn about
Megan, en tiedä, olisiko sinulta jättänyt häneltä suomalaista. Luulen, että olen New York City-kysymyksessä 30-vuotiaana. Tämä on ensimmäistä kertaa, kun olen kuullut tästä konseptista. Mutta, Matti... Mitä? Sinun täytyy mennä ulos enemmän. Sinun täytyy mennä online enemmän. Tai en. Minun 4-vuotias ja 9-vuotias eivät oikein ole. Minun tyttööni on hyvin erilainen. Hän haluaa saada Santa Clausin viikossa.
Kyllä. Ne ovat kouluissa, kun lapset... Niin kyllä, isäsi menee kouluun. Luukka menee Ionaan. Se on kattolainen yliopisto. Hän menee kouluun viikonloppuna. En ole varma, mitä tapahtuu siellä. Ehkä se on tapahtunut. Hyvä puheenjohtaja.
No, mitä vain. Se näyttää olevan ollut Charlie's alleged killerin kaveri. Hän oli furtikulttuurissa ja tämä lapsi kertoi itseänsä transissa myös ja se oli hot messi, kuten paljon posteja online ihmisistä, jotka olivat yleensä omassa asemassaan. He olivat kasvaneet vihreästi muodostuneita kokemuksia, järjestelmällisesti. Kaikki asemassa, jossa hän oli kaveri ja kasvaneet vihreät bakteerit asemassa, oli paljon drogeja, järjestelmällisesti, järjestelmällisesti, kiitos Maureen.
This was a very unhealthy household. And Tyler Robinson, I don't know, chicken, egg, I don't know. Tyler Robinson was raised by a nice family and conservative parents who seemed to have loved him very much, taught him family values. Maybe he was off. He does seem off to me. He seems like a spectrum, someplace located on the spectrum, potentially, when you hear him talk. His academics were very strong, but he was very socially weak. That combo was not infrequent.
Ja kuten mainitsin, hänen elektronisen koulutuksestaan, hyvin kiinnostunut online-yhteisössä ja gaming-yhteisössä ja hyvin online-yhteisössä, jonka kautta hän on saanut oikeuksia. Haluan kysyä sinulle kysymyksen, koska kysyin Kash Patelista, kun hän tuli esiin viikkoa sitten.
The one thing that stinks, I believe Tyler killed Charlie, no question. But the best point I think the so-called conspiracy theorists have, and I don't mean to be dismissive of them because they're just pursuing other possibilities, which is fine, is those text messages sound bullshit. They do sound very like...
It was not you, was it? It was I. It was like they sound very weird and not like the text of a 22-year-old guy or two 20-some-odd-year-old guys. And I wonder, Matt, let me ask you, how did they get that text exchange in?
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Chapter 7: What role does social media play in shaping young men's identities?
Right, that's a tough one. Because look, it's like the Brian Walsh murder that we all just watched. He got on a computer and did all kinds of incredibly incriminating searches, like how to get rid of a body after a murder. People really do send stupid text messages like that. And it's, you know, they're going to have a forensic chain of evidence, they're going to have a forensic
Specialists come in and break down those cell phones and they can explain the whole thing. I know Arthur's dealt with these before in court. I certainly have. It's very powerful evidence. And when you break it down and you have some gumshoe, probably an FBI agent on that, because a lot of counties contract with the FBI for cell phone analysis and that, and they come in and they're like, you're
He ovat kuin kartuunikäyttö G-men. He tulevat suuttelemaan. He ovat kuin Joe Friday. He ovat todella, todella hyviä siitä, mitä he tekevät. He kertovat teknologiaa. He ovat saaneet telefonit ja löytäneet kirjoja. Se on vaikea arvioida, miten he suunnittelivat sitä. Kuten sanoit, Megan,
You know, conspiracy theories and people on the internet can speculate about all kinds of things, but when the rubber hits the road in a courtroom and you dust off that book with the rules of evidence, that's a tough argument to make to a jury that's taking it seriously and following the law. So I don't know what their defense is going to be.
The furry trans roommate, who they have said is cooperating with law enforcement, take the stand and say, yeah, I had that text exchange with him. So that adds a new element to this fact pattern. But I will tell you, Megan, I got a hung jury, and I'm going to quit over the nine to three for not guilty.
on what I thought was pretty damning evidence against my client regarding messages going back and forth. And I was able to break it down enough where I said, look, it just doesn't make sense. Use your New York City common sense. Someone would not do this, etc.
Toivottavasti hän meni kohdalle toiselle tutkimukselle 30 minuuttia sitten. Joten jos hänen vihreämpäänsä käy testaamassa ja korroboroi tämän, niin nyt olet erilaisella tasolla korroborointia. Olet myös kertonut, että Tyler oli lähellä ensimmäisenä erilaisilla tavoilla.
If you're in that state after you executed someone and it's an international story, who knows where your brain is going and how you're conducting yourself and what you're writing and what you're saying? I think you're doing wordles and then writing confessions. That's how it looks here. I mean, according to the Washington Post in any event and according to the prosecutors in the case of the confession. Here's the other question. The prosecutors are alleging
They caught him because they had video of the alleged shooter and they put it out. The FBI put out a picture of him and it was a much better picture than we've seen of the Brown University shooter. And he wasn't wearing a mask and you could see a lot more of his face. He had a low baseball cap, but you could see the bottom half of his face and his outfit, which was also telling. And they also put out the picture of the gun, which they found in a nearby grassy area.
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Chapter 8: How can we prepare children for the realities of today's world?
Brought in a family friend who was both a preacher and had a relationship to law enforcement. Like he was sort of an off-duty sheriff type. I can't remember what the exact title was. And that guy brought in Tyler for the surrender and the negotiation. Or I don't know if he confessed to the police after that or not. But you can't make a spouse testify, Matt, against his or her spouse. But can you make a parent, can you make the mom and dad take the stand and say what he told them?
Kyllä, he eivät todennäköisesti työskennellä sitä, mutta se ei ole yksi ongelmallista kommunikaatiota. Se on yleensä psykoterapistit, järjestöt ja nuori. Ja se on se. Joten kyllä, voit tehdä lapsen testaamisen.
Ja muistakaa, että tämä on Ytä, ja minä harjoitan Kaliforniassa, ja Arthur on New York Cityn tyyppi. Tämä viimeinen asia... Siksi haluaisin hankkia Arthuria, jos minulla tuli ongelmia New Yorkissa, koska jos minulla olisi yllättävät kirjoitukset, hän olisi ainoa, jonka voi ajatella, että hän voisi saavuttaa minua ulos. Voi olla, että Gary käy LAissa, mutta se on Arthur täällä. Mutta katsotaan, että tämä on todella tärkeä asia. Puhutaan Ytästä. Ytästä jäsen on yllättävän jäsen.
Ja he tulevat esiin, ja minulla ei ole mitään toivomuutta, että he ovat oikeita, he tulevat seuraamaan lakia, mutta se on erittäin hyvä, se on nimeltään venaire, tai juuripuoli, johon järjestetään, erityisesti tuolla alueella. Ja he eivät, he eivät, minä tiedän, että LA, niitä argumentteja voi käyttää päivän aikana, niitä vihreästi konspiratiivisia teorioita. New York, ne toivottavasti voivat. Utah, se on vaikea kohta. Se on vaikea.
Ja siksi olet oikeassa. Ja siksi nyt on huomioita, että FED on yrittänyt osallistua tähän asiaan. FED ei tarvitse...
Including a, quote, novel legal theory that it was an anti-Christian hate crime, which could potentially give the feds jurisdiction. He's facing multiple state charges in Utah at the moment, but to make it federal would give like a backup lane of prosecution if the Utah prosecution fails. Go ahead, Arthur. Yeah, I mean, including, I believe, the death penalty they're seeking in the state of Utah. So like, you know, like...
respect the federal system but sometimes you know just step back the feds are not they don't do murder cases because people understand that state uh prosecutor's office handles straight up murder cases and this is a straight up murder case yes there's political issues etc but let's look at the actual facts of the elements of the crime
No one's going to prove if someone's a Republican, a Democrat, a conservative, a liberal or anything else. It's, you know, at this time, at this place, did you cause the death of Charlie Kirk by firing a firearm and it caused his death? Yes, period, amen, guilty, end of story. Judge, what's the sentence? Life in prison, death penalty. Like, we're good. Like, we don't need you to come in and start manipulating and masticating the laws, the federal laws, to figure out how to bring a federal case. You know, they did this with Puffy...
But isn't it a decent backup? Isn't it a good backup in case the Utah case goes south? Hopefully you don't need a backup, number one. But they did this thing, Sean Combs' case, where the feds had to come in and take this over. Now, there may have been a statute of limitations issue, but that video of Sean Combs beating up the young woman there, Casey, whatever her name is, Cassie, that's a slam-dump conviction of a kid who
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