SCOTUS Hears "Affirm Only" Therapy Arguments, AG Bondi Clashes with Dems over DOJ: AM Update 10/8
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good morning everyone i'm megan kelly it's wednesday october 8th 2025 and this is your am update it is a one-way ratchet that is designed to push kids down a radical path lots of kids are being harmed because they can't get the help they need the supreme court taking up a challenge to colorado's so-called conversion therapy law We talked to one of the lawyers at the center of the case. I wish you love Chicago as much as you hate President Trump. And currently, the National Guard are on the way to Chicago. And Attorney General Pam Bondi battling with Senate Democrats on law and order as Republican senators sound off on bombshell reporting that the Biden FBI secretly obtained their phone records in connection with its January 6th investigation.
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The law, which targets therapists, defines that as an effort, quote, to change an individual's sexual orientation or gender identity, including efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attraction or feelings toward individuals of the same sex. Colorado therapist Kaylee Childs argues the ban amounts to a, quote, viewpoint-based speech restriction on counselors in violation of the First Amendment. If she were to counsel a patient suffering from gender dysphoria who wanted affirmation of their transgender identity, that's totally permissible under the law. If Childs were to counsel a gender dysphoric patient who sought to grow comfortable with his or her natural body, it would be illegal.
The Alliance Defending Freedom represents Childs in this case. We spoke with President and CEO Kristen Wagoner, who says Colorado's definition of conversion therapy is far broader and more misleading than what the public has been led to believe.
Colorado's description of conversion therapy is very misleading, and I think intentionally so. It actually, in the statute itself, defines conversion therapy as including any practice that you engage in that helps a client lessen their behaviors or change their behaviors, their affections, their attractions. And so it includes just simple conversations that we know the science says people benefit from. Kids need to be heard and be able to talk through things. And that is actually labeled as conversion therapy in this law. You can't lump things in that are different. And again, Kaylee's counseling is simply listening and talking as are a number of therapists that are out there trying to help these kids navigate this issue.
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