Shocking New Kohberger Case Details About DNA Match, "Unknown Male" Blood, and Witness, with Howard Blum | Ep. 1002

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What are the new revelations in the Kohberger case?

Megyn Kelly 0:25
But in late January, there was a pretrial hearing, and an important one, that revealed shocking new information that we have not heard before. Joining me now to break down all the developments is Howard Bloom, journalist and New York Times bestselling author of When the Night Comes Falling, a requiem for the Idaho student murders. We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy, with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point, as the largest generation is, of course, hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. You pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living, and we could have a big problem. So what are you doing right now to protect your family for the future? Gold can be a safe haven in hard economic times, and Birch Gold makes it easy to diversify a portion of your savings into physical gold. Birch Gold will help you transition an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold, and it does not cost you one cent out of pocket. Protect your future today.
Megyn Kelly 1:27
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Was the FBI's DNA collection method illegal?

Howard Blum 2:16
Well, the way these authorities got to Kohlberger- wasn't through any other evidence at the beginning but just a little speck of dna smaller than a piece of dust that was left on the button of a knife sheath that was left behind They used this speck of DNA, they processed it so that they could give it to an FBI laboratory. The FBI laboratory then, after months of not admitting what they had done, it was revealed in the end of January in court that they had taken this DNA and they had uploaded it to two websites ancestry DNA websites that prohibit law enforcement from using this DNA. The FBI did this not out of any evil reasons, but just out of their zeal. You have to go back to the time of the killing.
Howard Blum 3:12
It was a murder of four young children on the loose. They had really no clues except for this DNA, except for this DNA. It was in many ways the perfect crime. They had no blood evidence. Really, they had no evidence of anyone stalking these young college students. All they had was this DNA, so they ran with it. And this DNA allowed them to open up many other doors, ultimately having a series of search warrants that led to the suspects, Brian Kohlberger's phone, his car, his apartment. But without that DNA, they couldn't have gotten these search warrants. And now the defense is saying, wait a minute, wait a minute.

How crucial is DNA evidence in the Kohberger case?

Howard Blum 4:00
This suspect's Fourth Amendment rights were violated by the FBI's going into these prohibited websites.
Megyn Kelly 4:09
You've been saying this all along. You've been suspecting that the FBI got this match between the DNA, the touch DNA on the knife sheath, and matched it to Kohlberger's father. possibly by doing something they're not allowed to do, which is use the commercial DNA websites that people like you and I might go to if we're looking for a long-lost relative. They have a public database. CeCe Moore, the original creator of genetic genealogy, talked to us about this a long time ago saying, There's only one that's totally public and anyone can upload their DNA and see what's on there. The other two are fee-for-service private companies that are not allowed to be used by law enforcement. Otherwise, nobody would go on there, right?

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