GOP Cross-Exam of Witnesses Utterly Backfires at Hearing

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What does the host say about the MAGA Republicans’ cross‑examinations at the start of the episode?

Ben Meiselas 0:00
The MAGA Republican cross-examination during these congressional hearings, no bueno. Very, very bad. If you want to know how you don't do cross-examinations, I want to show you what went down with these MAGA Republican Congress members and senators who tried to cross-examine these witnesses, and the witnesses got the upper hand on them. humiliated the MAGA Republican Congress members and senators. And I want you to watch this one. It's great. You have the MAGA Republican Congress member Ralph Norman trying to cross-examine Democratic Congresswoman Velazquez and just watch how she turns the tables on him and makes him look like a fool. Play this clip.
Unknown 0:48
It's obviously extending the burden on on on our middle class, on our working families, and in our on our small businesses.
Ralph Norman 0:54
A lot of the illegals that uh we've encountered, they've got a document. They the the Biden administration issued driver's licenses, issued fake social security numbers. So then if they'll lie on that if they'll lie with that, what else will they lie on? Just for the lengths, you wanna answer any of that?
Unknown 1:14
Where is the evidence, sir? Where is the evidence? Show me the proof. You just can't come here and make up things up without presenting evidence. And the administrator, for six months that's been in office, has not come before the committee to answer questions and to To share with us. What is her opinion on the different proposals?
Ralph Norman 1:39
It doesn't work that way. It does not work that way. I can see that. It does not work that way and
Unknown 1:44
when you talk about the billions of dollars that have gone to ineligible small businesses, yes, you're right. It happened on the the first Trump administration when we uh implemented the PPP and he Loosen up. They got rails on the PPP.
Ralph Norman 2:05
They're not being enforced under the Biden administration. Just like the b just like the borders were not.
Ben Meiselas 2:12
All right. Now, in this next clip, you have lawyer v lawyer.

How did Democratic Congresswoman Velazquez turn the tables on Rep. Ralph Norman during his cross‑examination?

Ben Meiselas 2:17
Um, although Josh Hawley, the MAGA Republican senator from Missouri, sure don't act like a lawyer a lot of times. That's putting it lightly. So here you have um uh Senator Josh Hawley, MAGA Republican, is speaking to uh Professor K. Kate Shaw, also she's a great podcast host as well. Um, and he's saying, Look at all of these leftist radical judges who are issuing all of these injunctions. Look at my chart. And then Professor Kate Shaw is like, you know, the other explanation is that Donald Trump's engaged in so many crimes that it ain't just Democratic judge issuing injunctions against Donald Trump. It's Republican judges who are issuing injunctions. Trump judges, George W. Bush judges, Reagan judges are the ones issuing the injunctions, in addition to Democrat appointed judges.
Ben Meiselas 3:10
Here, watch this.
Josh Hawley 3:12
Really only once Trump came into office for the first time. Now you don't think this is a little bit anomalous? You don't think that's a little bit a very plausible explanation,
Unknown 3:20
Senator? You have have to consider is that he is engaged in much more lawless activity than other presidents, right? You don't
Josh Hawley 3:25
think you must consider what is a lot of people who never used before the nineteen sixties, and suddenly Democrat judges decide we love the nationwide injunction, and then when Biden comes to office, no it now actually. It's
Unknown 3:36
Republican appointees as well, Senator. And the nineteen sixties is where some scholars begin, sort of locate the beginning of this. Mila Sahoney, who's another scholar of universal injunction, suggests nineteen thirteen is actually the first of others in the twenties. Well, the federal government was doing a lot less until a hundred years ago. So I'm I you know, there's many things that have changed in the last hundred or the last fifty years. But
Josh Hawley 4:01
so long as it is a Democrat president office, then we should have no nationwide injunctions. If it's a Republican president, then this is absolutely fine, warranted, and called for that is how can our system of law survive on those principles, Professor?
Unknown 4:16
I think a system in which there are political constraints on the president is a very dangerous system.

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