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The MeidasTouch Podcast

GOP Epstein Hearing Blows Up as Dems Turn the Tables

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What did the Republican Hearing on Epstein aim to achieve?

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Republican hearings in the House of Representatives blew up in their faces as Democrats turned the tables. Specifically, Republicans wanted to hold a hearing where they were going to find former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in contempt of Congress regarding not showing up for an under oath deposition regarding the Epstein file.

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26.728 - 40.163 Ben Meiselas

So rather than turning over the Epstein files, the MAGA Republicans want to harass former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Let me just be very clear about my position here.

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40.143 - 58.236 Ben Meiselas

i want there to be full transparency but obviously this is a ruse to try to protect donald trump and not produce the epstein files by making this about bill clinton and hillary clinton ultimately i want to see all witnesses show up but you know that this is a deflect and distract attempt

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to try to cover up for donald trump and donald trump's relationship with jeffrey epstein and what's actually in the files so let me talk to you about what went down as democrats turned the table where mega republicans were trying to hold the clintons in contempt you have democratic congress member james walkinshaw from virginia point out that the mega republicans are covering up the child sex trafficking ring here here play this clip let's be honest about

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the transparency that Attorney General Bondi has provided. This is DOJ Epstein data set number four. It's number four. Data set number four. This is part of the 1% that folks have been talking about.

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Then you have Democratic Congresswoman Stansbury point out that what her constituents want to know is what must be so bad in those Epstein files that Donald Trump's invading Venezuela and threatening Greenland in order to cover up whatever the hell's in those files. Play this clip.

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And the question that I got over and over again from my constituents is what is in those files that is so bad that President Trump is invading Venezuela, threatening our NATO allies, and sending thousands of armed paramilitary troops onto our streets to create violence and chaos in American cities. That is what the American people are actually asking us.

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Then you have Democratic Congresswoman Ansari points out that Pam Bondi, the attorney general, should be held in contempt. That what really this should be about is holding Bondi in contempt for violating the Epstein Transparency Act, which the MAGA Republicans refuse to do. Just think about that. They want to go after Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, while it is obvious that Pam Bondi did not...

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follow the Epstein Transparency Act. And Ansari points it out. Ansari's like, 1% of the documents have been produced. Stop applauding Pam Bondi and the DOJ. And then James Comer's like, well, we're doing our best. We're doing our best. No, they claim they've been doing this since February. And now it is January, almost February, almost a full year.

Chapter 2: How did Democrats expose the GOP's cover-up during the hearing?

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She's turned over documents in the beginning. In the beginning, you all complained and said the first document dropped. didn't have enough redactions, and the second document dump had too many redactions. So they're trying to get this, and I believe that we will get those documents very soon. I have been assured we're going to get those documents very soon.

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I hear you, but with all due respect, given everything that she herself stated in February of last year, her own statements in front of the entirety of the American public saying, we have the documents. They are ready to go. The sub, the subpoena from this committee was issued in July.

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And nobody on our side, nobody on our side is defending Pam Bondi.

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I can assure you. So then she should be held in contempt. She is complying with, they have turned documents over.

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They have turned documents over and every time they do, you all complain about too many redactions, not enough redactions. So.

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That is unacceptable. It has been six months and there's been nothing produced.

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Your time's expired and we want the documents. We've made that very clear. And then in some of the other hearings that were taking place, I'll bring you to some of the other ones as well, you have the MAGA Republicans like trying to attack Congresswoman McIver. And she's the Congresswoman from New Jersey who was arrested and prosecuted by Donald Trump's Gestapo forces.

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And she was prosecuted for showing up at the Delaney detention center in her district or right around her district in New Jersey. And since she was like arrested and she's being federally prosecuted and there's allegations and they're trying to charge her for going after the ICE officer when that's not what's on tape.

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Watch what happens as MAGA Republican Congress member Crane goes after MacGyver and she's like, watch your mouth. Don't talk to me like that. Here, play this clip.

Chapter 3: What questions are constituents asking about the Epstein files?

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655.22 - 679.299 Ben Meiselas

There was another hearing taking place as well with the HUD secretary, housing and urban development secretary, and his name is Scott Turner. And Democratic Congress member Sherman just utterly exposed Scott Turner. And what Sherman showed is that Scott Turner's like, We're here to help all the victims of fires and natural disasters.

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And Sherman's like, well, where I'm from, you want to talk about what's happening in Los Angeles and the surrounding areas? You haven't provided $1 to help the victims of the fires. Not $1. Watch this brilliant cross-examination. Here, play this clip.

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How much are the L.A. fires? That's all public. You can go find out.

Chapter 4: Why is Attorney General Pam Bondi being scrutinized in this context?

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Sir. Yes. I did not say I did not like politicians. Okay, well, maybe you like politics. I said the leadership in California is the one that you need to be talking to.

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730.676 - 756.526 Ben Meiselas

Are you saying that I should talk to the leadership in California about why your department? You come here and you say that you're proud of helping the victims of disasters. You haven't done a single penny, not one penny, for the L.A. fires. And I should go talk to California politicians about why you haven't provided and do not support a single penny for those victims?

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You need to talk to the leadership in California about how they're stewarding over the funds that they do have to help those in Palisades and Altadena.

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So you're saying you should do nothing because California should do it on its own with the funds that it already has? Why do you come here and tell us how much your department helps disaster victims when with the biggest disaster your response is, oh, the local government should handle that and we should do nothing?

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I'll repeat, $12 billion.

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$12 billion to how much of that $12 billion came from your department and went to the L.A. fire victims? You can go find out. I know. I already found out. Zero dollars and zero cents. Now, you can try to take credit for what other agencies have done, but you came here to talk about your department helping fire victims, and your department has helped fire victims by providing $0.00.

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How can you speak with pride about your department helping fire victims, helping the victims of disaster when you've provided zero and you have and you don't? Apparently, I keep asking you to say that you support doing something in the future with perhaps a supplemental appropriation. Do you support a CDBG program funded by Congress to help the victims of the L.A. fires?

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Sir, I did answer that question. I do support CDBGDR. For the L.A. fires? For all of fire, flood, and victims of disasters and storms around our country.

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Because my Republican colleagues have said they're ready to go with a supplemental appropriation when they get the signal from the administration that the administration supports it. You're here from the administration. Do you support CDBG that would include the fires in Los Angeles?

Chapter 5: How are MAGA Republicans perceived in their approach to the hearing?

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