Governor Newsom Discusses Trump’s SCOTUS Loss and New Book

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Ben Meiselas 0:00
I'm joined by California Governor Gavin Newsom. Governor Newsom, great to see you. Got to get your reaction to Trump's reaction to the Supreme Court ruling against his tariffs against the world. Donald Trump having a meltdown, a temper tantrum, and his entire regime right now, they're just whining.

What are Governor Newsom's thoughts on Trump's Supreme Court ruling regarding tariffs?

Ben Meiselas 0:19
What do you make of it all, Governor?
Gavin Newsom 0:21
Yeah, I mean, there's never been a ditch that's been dug this deep, isn't it? I mean, as you describe it, a tantrum on top of a tantrum attacking his own hand-picked Supreme Court that's been completely souped by, has been doing his bidding, particularly with the shadow docket for months and months and months. But look, months ago, I was on your show the day we announced we were the first state with our attorney general to announce our lawsuit against against the Trump administration, saying they were illegally moving forward, exercising emergency authority under the International Economic Emergency Powers Act. They could not unilaterally do that. And boy, I think about that complaint we filed that day.
Gavin Newsom 1:00
It sounded a lot like, or read a lot like Roberts' uh opinion released robert's words as it relates to this illegal uh action by this administration i want to remind you by the way we did it in a ranch in the central valley in california because it was ranchers and farmers small businesses uh that were hurt most uh with this regressive tax that is taxed average american family by over seventeen hundred fifty dollars And so it's time to return those, return that money immediately to the American people, put it back in their pockets, and it's time to return to the rule of law, not the rule of Don.
Ben Meiselas 1:37
Right, and you immediately demanded those refunds be issued right away. Donald Trump, Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, they said, we're gonna try to hold up American businesses and the people in litigation. We're gonna be fighting this is what they, they said the Supreme Court ruling is ambiguous and confusing.
Gavin Newsom 1:55
and they said years of litigation what's your response to that again i mean it's the last stop sorry guys i mean we've all i've suffered uh many times on the other side of supreme court ruling so there's no higher ruling there's no board of peace here uh you can't re-establish with a billion dollar tithing with 27 of your friends from overseas and create a new supreme court It's time this guy start to understand that he cannot operate as an imperial president, that he is subject to the rule of law, co-equal branches of government.

How does Governor Newsom describe Trump's reaction to the Supreme Court's decision?

Gavin Newsom 2:30
The only branch of government that seems to be marginally operating, Supreme Court I say with an asterisk, but today they seem to operate, are the courts. And I hope the Court of Public Opinion's finally catching up that it's gonna put pressure on the other branch of government, Congress, to step up and start doing their job. They're all gonna be out of work in nine months. You're gonna have a Speaker Jeffries. This thing, this is a wrecking ball president. And his imperial presidency is about to come to an end. But he's going to be, as you suggest, this last gasp of a desperate man. And that was advanced today rhetorically and then substantively with his effort to now do a global tax of 10%, another regressive tax on working people and small businesses across this country and around the world.
Ben Meiselas 3:19
You mentioned his Board of Peace. Boy, was that a weird, bizarre thing to watch. He was like sleeping through it. You had all these authoritarian leaders there. He was playing YMCA. Very strange. But in a more serious note, you've now traveled to the Munich conference. You were at Davos. You were at a climate conference. In Brazil, you've been speaking to world leaders who are our allies or under the Trump regime, former allies who should be our allies. What's your general sense of what the world is feeling right now as you've now concluded this travel to those places?
Gavin Newsom 3:55
One-on-one meetings with the Chancellor of Germany, the Prime Minister of Spain. I'm talking ambassadors from across the globe. This is... There's a reckoning happening.

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