Rep. Pat Ryan Responds to Trump’s Speech on Venezuela Attack

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What sparked the immediate backlash after Trump’s Venezuela speech?

Ben Meiselas 0:00
So there's been some major fallout since Donald Trump's invasion of Venezuela. We're now hearing from the acting president of Venezuela, Delcy Rodriguez, addressing the nation and uh stating, quote, Venezuela will never be a colony of any nation, adding that Venezuela will uh only ever have one president, Nicolas Maduro. I mean, she seems to be digging. In her heels. We'll have to see what happens there. The uh interior minister as well, who's kind of known as the main henchman, um, has been videotaped, you know, saying that like there's no plan to surrender to Donald Trump at this point. The governors of Maduro seem defiant, but that could be changing rapidly. Um, you know, one of the things that I think went little reported.
Ben Meiselas 0:50
But uh that Donald Trump said during that press conference and also told the New York Post, he said, you know, many Cubans lost their lives last night. Did you know that many Cubans lost their lives? They were protecting Maduro. That was not a good move. Maduro was being guarded by a contingent of Cuban soldiers, Thomas Van Lynn says, and it appears that those Cuban soldiers were killed. We're trying to get more information about Um Venezuelan military deaths seems like there was over a dozen at least, perhaps more than 90 injured. Um, in terms of some other potential diplomatic fallout, uh Chinese officials um were apparently in Venezuela for talks with Nicolas Maduro when this took place, and a lot of people were saying that that would be an insult to the Chinese uh diplomats there.
Ben Meiselas 1:38
More broadly, um People are saying, well, you know, what message is this sending now if you're China with respect to Taiwan, or if you're Russia with respect to Ukraine, if it's now just the law of the strong and US is not acting as any force of good in the world, does that create a permission structure for authoritarians now to justify their invasions or their kidnappings of foreign leaders? Another notable development, Donald Trump throwing uh the main opposition leader, uh Maria uh Karina Machado under the bus. I mean, lots of Venezuelans assume that she would be the person who would be the leader, but Donald Trump said, I think it will be very tough for her to be a leader. She's not respected in the country.
Ben Meiselas 2:25
She's the main uh opposition leader, but he just threw her under the bus. the bus in public, my I might add. Here, play this clip.
Unknown 2:33
Are US aware of the location of opposition leader Machado and have you been in contact with her?
Donald J. Trump 2:38
No, we haven't really no. We haven't
Unknown 2:40
Mr. Bachelor.
Donald J. Trump 2:46
Well I think it would be very tough for her to be the leader. She doesn't have the support within or the respect within the country.

How did Venezuelan leaders respond to Trump’s alleged invasion?

Donald J. Trump 2:51
She's a very nice woman, but she doesn't have the respect to be.
Ben Meiselas 2:55
Nobel Prize winner, the main opposition leader. He's saying she doesn't have the respect in her country. And she was out there praising him before she put out a statement earlier, too, to the Venezuelan people to stand up and he just says that about her. I want to bring in Democratic Congress member Pat Ryan, and I'm sure you all know Congressmember Pat Ryan. He's been on the show before, but just to give you some background, he served in the U.S. Army as a military intelligence officer. Sir from two thousand and four to two thousand nine, completing two combat tours in Iraq. It's great to have you here, Congress member. I guess first let me just get your reaction to what took place, and then let's talk about something, some other stuff about this.
Ben Meiselas 3:34
So what's your reaction to what just took place?
Pat Ryan 3:37
Thanks for having me. Thanks for covering this. Uh And I think you mentioned it in my bio somebody that served 27 months in combat. This is not a good day for our country. Americans are now, we got to be very clear and strong about this. This does not make the American people safer. It does not make America stronger. It certainly tarnishes our reputation. And for those of us that served in Iraq and Afghanistan in particular, on a personal level. This is us starting, clearly starting another forever war, which the American people do not support.

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