Pollies: National's Mark Mitchell and Labour's Ginny Andersen on National's first home buyer policy, Green's supermarket policy, PISA results, carbon credit auctions
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What is the overall focus of today’s Politics Wednesday episode?
For Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell's with us along with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to both of you. Good morning, Mike. Good morning, Ginny.
Good morning, Mark. Good morning, Mike. I just had to step outside because my kids came in last week telling me I had to do road patrol on Friday and I just had to remind them not to do that again because it's a little bit distracting if you're on the radio.
Oh, no. I thought you were going to say remind me not to ever do road patrol again because I've done road patrols.
Do you like doing road
patrol? No, I didn't, because they made you put on a high-vis vest and stuff like that, and the lollipop, you know, you look a bit stupid. But we all do our part. We all coach the netball team, and we all do road patrol, and we all donate to a cause that we think is going to do somebody some good. I think that's how life works, isn't it, Mark?
Well, I thought Ginny would like road patrol because she could have a little tax tin there she could put the sign down
and people have
to pay. Oh,
Edwin! We can contribute to Mark's joke fund.
That was a pretty good one, Ginny. You've got to admit.
Yeah, you're good at dad jokes. Number one on dad
jokes.
That's
what my kids tell me, yeah. A couple of quick things, Ginny. Are you broadly, the National Party 5% on your house deposit thing, are you broadly going to come up with something that kind of matches that eventually?
We're supportive. We think it's a good idea. It's important that first-time buyers have some certainty, and we think it's important that anything that helps people get their first home is a good
thing. Good. Well, that's encouraging. Now, what about that article I featured on the program earlier? Did you see that when that originally came out? That was your meeting in the hut the other night, and your teachers were
there. I did see that, yeah.
And so you are, is it fair to suggest you are walking an interesting line here and looking at where you aim your messaging around education?
There's quite a wide selection of different views as to how the changes have gone down. And so, yes, the comments that were given in the article were reflective of one, but there were many others in the room who didn't share that view.
Right. And so do you see yourself as the education spokesperson as having an area of, I don't know, topic that you can go at the government on that they failed in an area that I would suggest you many people think that they've actually done quite well on?
I think the one area that everybody's in agreement on is to depoliticise education. There have been changes where you had a minister making kind of decisions that should be done by educational professionals and that makes it really tricky for the whole sector. So we're in favour of taking the heat out of education so you don't have this 180 degree swing every time there's a change of government because that just destabilises the education sector and it means our kids don't get the best
Yeah, exactly. You talk about a minister that's a mum and deeply passionate about education, not just for our own children, but for all our kids. And I just wanted a huge hat tip to Erika Stanford and her team and every principal and teacher around the country that we should be extremely proud as a country that the PISA results show there's a stop in the decline of kids education. and us going backwards and kids in the bottom quartile have made huge gains to close the equity
gap. That
is huge for us.
It seems to be working. Can you explain, Mark, and I've raised this with your great leader on various Mondays and he's not having a bar of it. This carbon auction thing that you insist on running that sells no credits and nobody turns up and nobody bids. How do you explain that?
Well, it's like any other option.
Yeah, but why run something that doesn't work
is my point. Well, that's a question above my pay grade, mate. I can't get into that one. Do you
reckon – well, this
is interesting. Can I just give answers like that to all of your questions, Mike? Well, no. Well, of course you can.
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