Wrapping the Week with Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson: Commonwealth Games, Stuart Nash, Paul Henry

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What quirky breakfast debate opens the show about bacon jam and rollers jeans?

Mike Hosking 0:00
Mike, we need more information about this pie that Ryan Fox is reportedly in a rush to get steak, bacon, jam and cheese. Question mark. I did the same thing. It's a bacon jam. Don't think jam isn't raspberry jam. It's bacon jam. It's apparently it's a thing. He's done it for a while. It's at some Northcote bakery. Rollers. Rollers bakery. Rollers jeans. You've got some rollers jeans, haven't you, Katie?
Kate Hawkesby 0:20
Sure do. You don't like them because they've got a bit of a flare.
Mike Hosking 0:23
Yeah, big flare. There's nothing, everything, every flare should have been banned a long time ago. Tim, good morning to you. Katie, good morning to you.
Kate Hawkesby 0:31
Good morning.
Mike Hosking 0:32
Good morning.
Tim Wilson 0:33
Yeah, I'm about the straight legs too, Mike. Couldn't agree more. Flares. No. 70s are over. Thank goodness.
Kate Hawkesby 0:39
It's a hard time for us women because they got rid of the skinny jean. And for those of us who have grown up addicted to the skinny jean, suddenly we have to get into all these high-waisted, big, wide-leg mom jeans, and it's been horrific. That and having to ditch ankle socks and wear crew socks that go halfway up our calves, it's a tough time to be – A woman of a certain age can tell you that.
Tim Wilson 1:02
Hey, Kate, how are you going with the death pants? Have you heard of the death pants?

How do the hosts react to fashion trends like flares, mom jeans and ‘death pants’?

Kate Hawkesby 1:06
Yeah, I have. I've actually got a pair of those. Oh, no, no, no.
Tim Wilson 1:11
Mike, you have to intervene.
Kate Hawkesby 1:13
Yes. Because they're so wide.
Tim Wilson 1:15
You put your foot through the front and you just go forwards. And it's just, Mike, you've got to take them off. It's health and safety.
Mike Hosking 1:22
I don't go anywhere near her choice in clothing, Tim, because I've learned that in the 15 years of marriage, there are certain areas we don't dabble in. Katie, were you happy with the answer from the Electoral Commission and our good friend Amelia?
Kate Hawkesby 1:34
No, I mean, good on her for being forthcoming, yes. But I do question when she says we assess political neutrality. I know for a fact, I would love to know how they think they do that. Because Louis Davis, for one of the examples, has said countless times his favourite person in the whole world is Jacinda Ardern. And he's, I would say, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out his politics at all. So I think the political neutrality thing is a bit dodgy. I don't know who the other...
Mike Hosking 2:02
You've never heard of the others. Tim, have you heard of Raniera and Courtney and Makere?
Tim Wilson 2:07
No, no, I haven't. But I mean, you just think social media is not about neutrality. It's not a place of neutrality. You take a position, that's how you get rewarded.
Mike Hosking 2:15
So what about the likes? What about the argument about the likes? You know, if you get the likes, I mean, that's not a metric. I mean, that's just crap.
Tim Wilson 2:23
You know what they should say is like, okay, I'll support people who love Jacinda Ardern and I'll support people who like Hayek, the economist. People who have, you know, although I can't see a lot of Instagram traction.
Mike Hosking 2:36
Okay, so I need to ring Amelia back because she's keen to hear feedback because she's that sort of person.
Kate Hawkesby 2:43
Is she though?
Mike Hosking 2:44
Well, she won't work. She'll work from home Friday, so she's presumably not in the office. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10, she satisfied every craving you had vis-a-vis the influences on the electric. Where do you score it?
Kate Hawkesby 2:55
Well, did she say how much they're paying them?
Mike Hosking 2:58
Well, I gave you the numbers on the program. I dedicated the bloody program to you. 2.17 on the Maori roll. Now, she didn't say specifically on the influencers, but it was 2.17 million for the Maori roll. How much are they giving each? Right.
Kate Hawkesby 3:11
How much are they getting each to peddle it? And what sort of work do they do around finding their political neutrality? Because I would argue that's impossible for them.
Mike Hosking 3:22
I'm going to set Sammy on that. He's going back to Amelia on that and we'll report back Monday. So that should work out well.
Tim Wilson 3:28
Could Katie apply to the Electoral Commission for a bit of funding?
Mike Hosking 3:31
Yeah. Well, see, what's wrong? Why don't I go, like, next time we do a Warriors video, which gets literally, was it tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of views, right? Yep. So those would be influencer-type views.

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