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The Moth

Look Away—Or Don’t: The Moth Radio Hour

24 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What incident prompts the host to reflect on witnessing and looking away?

13.683 - 35.86 Kate Tellers

This is the Moth Radio Hour. I'm your host, Kate Tellers. The other night, I was walking home from the subway with my two children, ages 8 and 10. We had just crossed an intersection when we heard squealing tires immediately followed by the crunch of metal. When we turned around, there were two people lying in the street next to a smashed up motorcycle. I knew two things immediately.

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35.9 - 59.101 Kate Tellers

I had to call 911, and my children could not witness this. I quickly told them to turn around with their backs to the street and me as I described to the dispatcher what I was witnessing. After help was confirmed, I turned around to my children to see their tiny backs, rigid, lit up by flashing blue and red lights as the sound of sirens grew closer. They looked so innocent.

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59.723 - 83.842 Kate Tellers

I do not regret preserving some of that. Sometimes the right thing to do is to look away, and other times we need to look life straight in the eyes. In this hour, we'll explore stories from people who are grappling with this conundrum. And for all you big-hearted people out there, I confirmed with a detective later that the two men in the intersection survived. They will, thankfully, be fine.

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87.086 - 92.593 Kate Tellers

Our first story comes from Allie Griswold, who told us at a story slam in London, England. Here's Allie.

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97.703 - 121.667 Ali Griswold

So I love my flat, except for its window. There's nothing inherently wrong with the window. It's even double glazed. The problem is that it looks directly into my neighbor's shower. This is the main window in my flat. It's the one I face when I'm sitting on my couch, when I'm eating dinner at my table. It's impractical to keep it covered at all times.

122.688 - 149.445 Ali Griswold

It is unavoidable, as were they when they were showering. I've never met my neighbors in the building next door, but I feel they were intimately acquainted. They were either very clean or very dirty. I'm unclear which, but as far as I was concerned, at least one of them was in the shower at all times, and often both of them together, having enthusiastic shower sex.

151.72 - 173.045 Ali Griswold

I considered what to do about this. I thought I'm an adult, I should be able to work out a mature solution to this problem. We all live on the top floor of our respective buildings and it would be perfectly reasonable for them to assume they're in the privacy of their own home. I felt like it was my civic and neighborly duty to let them know.

173.085 - 196.66 Ali Griswold

So I decided to go about it in the most British way possible by writing them a very apologetic note. I started with, I'm sorry, which after several years of living in this country, I think is the best way to start a conversation with any British person. So I say, dear next door neighbors, I'm so sorry for the awkwardness of this note.

197.702 - 225.083 Ali Griswold

I just wanted to let you know that your shower window isn't as opaque as you might think it is. Actually, it's pretty see-through in case you wanted to get a curtain. Wishing you well, kind regards, all the best, Allie." Early the next morning, I tiptoe over to my neighbor's flat. I've addressed the note to top floor flat because I don't know their names. I don't even know their flat number.

Chapter 2: How does Allie Griswold navigate her neighbor's unexpected shower situation?

484.276 - 514.942 Misha Merrill

When I was a kid, back in the 1990s, yeah, it's not that long ago, my mom used to take my sister and I over to Blockbuster Video, and she would say, go pick out any video you want, and then we'd pick it out, and we'd rent it, and we'd bring it home, and she would make a copy of that video for us to keep so we could watch it whenever we wanted. Right, so that's illegal.

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515.844 - 538.203 Misha Merrill

And we did it for many years. And eventually Blockbuster kind of caught on and the VHS tapes would arrive with a sort of lock on them that prevented us from being able to copy them. So we found another video store called New Concept Video which was in Miami Beach, was a great local video store, and we started doing the same thing there.

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538.843 - 556.808 Misha Merrill

And it was kind of a blessing because New Concept had this entirely different collection of movies, like all these eclectic independent movies and foreign films, and my mom was in heaven because she's a real film buff, and she could kind of culture my sister and I a little with all these eclectic movies.

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556.973 - 586.221 Misha Merrill

So while she had her head buried in the indie film section, I wandered around as a nine or 10-year-old in this video store and found another section which had this partition with a red velvety curtain. And I would poke my head through and see this ocean of just fleshy, just porn, it was porn. And I was...

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586.201 - 610.707 Misha Merrill

amazed and mesmerized because I mean not only you know is it amazing but it's also I was I had no idea what sex was because we didn't discuss these things in my family because despite the fact that like my parents are very open-minded and and my mother in particular I kind of think of her a little bit as like an Annie Hall like a real life Annie Hall she's she's very beautiful and very funny

610.687 - 634.315 Misha Merrill

and warm, but neurotic, and throws on like outfits that don't really work, but they look amazing on her. So she's like that, but she's also Kurdish and Muslim. So along with this Kurdish Muslimness comes a lot of other, you know, baggage, in my opinion, like especially, basically she's sexually repressed.

634.295 - 657.228 Misha Merrill

So we didn't talk about sex growing up, and she protected us a lot from that conversation, which meant that these videos that she was copying, she wouldn't just copy them, she'd also edit them. censoring out anything that she thought was too sexy or violent. So she just cut all that stuff out.

657.89 - 675.883 Misha Merrill

And so that means that like, you know, when I think about watching a movie as a kid, I really can't remember one movie that I watched that didn't at some point just freeze. with two characters on screen like clearly about to kiss and then frantically fast forward.

676.785 - 692.763 Misha Merrill

And I was desperately trying to look past those gray squiggly lines on the screen, but I couldn't see anything because it was just this chaos of fast forwarding all the way through the scene and then it would stop and the movie would continue. And she did this without fail with every movie that we rented.

Chapter 3: What creative edits did Misha Mehrel's mother make to their movie rentals?

2511.849 - 2540.687 Boots Lupinui

And she pulls out a notepad and a pencil and she starts trying to remember what they might have been. Right about then, I started feeling like I was getting COVID. And I think I was contracting it from this song. But I recorded her humming on my phone, and I took her scratch paper lyrics home to write this song with now six days left.

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2542.029 - 2558.063 Boots Lupinui

Just like the first one, I was shooting for a song that would have been popular here back in the day in 1939 when he wrote it. This one was easy. This one wrote itself. There was something about it that it felt like all I had to do was play it out loud and it would be real, and it was.

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2558.824 - 2589.809 Boots Lupinui

Just like with the first song, we recorded it in the bushes on the rock wall of a collo patch, and we got it all done on time. On the last day of filming, Sunday afternoon, The crew comes to me and they say, we got all the interview footage shot, we got all the song footage shot, we got all the B-roll shot, but we still have no idea what the story is that we're editing this footage into.

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2590.81 - 2614.843 Boots Lupinui

There's no way I could have storyboarded any of this. Now this crew is leaving to go back to the airport to fly back to Oahu in a couple of hours and I still don't know what the story I'm telling is. So now I'm in my head and I'm running through all the interview footage trying to play it back and it hits me that I've overlooked the most important piece of this whole puzzle.

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2615.483 - 2640.96 Boots Lupinui

I took my eyes off of the spot where the trick was happening. Both the ladies who gave me songs for this story, for this project, one at the beginning of the project and one at the end of the project, were both from the same old Kohala family. And yet they had never met. They had never even heard of each other. I didn't know how that was possible.

2641.381 - 2665.194 Boots Lupinui

But then it hit me that I can tell the finished story with one last shot. So I tell the crew to go get the first lady, the one who grew up on Oahu. Take her to the family graveyard in Kohala. It's a beautiful little plot. She'd never been there before. Don't mic her up. Ask her to wait in the car, because I don't want her to explore the graveyard on her own.

2666.035 - 2690.916 Boots Lupinui

I go to get the other lady, the one who grew up in Kohala. And I asked her to come back to the family graveyard to meet her cousin of hers for the very first time. And she says yes. And we filmed them meeting in the graveyard, hugging and kissing. The one woman pointing out the graves of both women's shared ancestors.

2693.599 - 2715.946 Boots Lupinui

They're holding hands and they're smiling and walking and talking and without microphones. We don't get to know what they're saying. That's not for us. That conversation belongs to their family. And it gives me chicken skin even now I think about the fact that the only people who heard those words were those two women and their ancestors. And I was honored.

2716.006 - 2741.884 Boots Lupinui

I stood outside that graveyard, and I was honored to just be a silent witness to this sweetness in a graveyard. And that was it. There was the trick. It was revealed. I was watching the whole time, and I still don't know how the trick was done. But what I do know is these two guys, these two men, these two sons of Kohala,

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