From In the Dark: The Journey
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What is the premise of Kayla Elliott’s surrogate journey?
Hi, it's David Remnick, and this is a bonus episode of the New Yorker Radio Hour. It's the beginning of a new season of In the Dark, the New Yorker's investigative podcast. This time, staff writer Ava Kaufman explores how a wealthy Los Angeles couple obtained dozens of children, all born to surrogates. And she uncovers a dark scandal that could have consequences for the entire industry of surrogate birth. It's an astonishing story, and it's called The Journey. Here's episode one.
Alrighty guys, so I know it's been a while. Um my name is Kayla. If y'all are just now stumbling upon my page, I am twenty six years old, I live in Texas, and this is my first time being a gestational uh surrogate. So I'm kind of sharing my experience.
Last year, I started watching videos posted online by a woman in Corpus Christi, Texas.
This will be my fifth pregnancy. I have four bio kids. Um very new at YouTubing, so bear with me. I'm still getting the hang of actually speaking and looking at the camera making videos.
Kayla Elliott was about to carry a child for strangers. She figured about nine months of work. And then it'd be over. In the delicate jargon of the fertility industry. The experience is called a journey.
Please subscribe and you will get some little sneak peeks of my journey in pregnancy.
Like every surrogate mother, Kayla understood the baby was not hers. It was a gift for someone else. Kayla was carrying a baby for a couple who told her they desperately wanted a second child. And who tried unsuccessfully to conceive.
And I say this with all my heart, guys, like if I could give my fertility, just a sliver of it, to every mom out there who's struggling with fertility, I would do it in a heartbeat. I mean I would like no questions asked. Like I You know, I I love the fact that I could help another family and I don't see
She kept posting updates and videos, mostly on TikTok, so that her family and friends could follow along.
Here it is, guys, seventeen weeks today. Little baby girl. Belly bump. Or loving being a surrogate.
But Kayla's journey would take her somewhere unexpected. Her posts would eventually attract a very different audience.
Popped up, my friend sent it to me on TikTok. I checked my email and here my attorney had sent us a TikTok. And that's what really stopped me in my tracks. And I was just scrolling and then I seen the names. And I was like, my heart just stopped.
Like, are you serious?
Started to like make me shake. I was getting so set and worried.
Kayla would end up becoming a whistleblower. Drawing attention to a confounding scheme that had been going on for years.
And now to a bizarre story in the San Gabriel Valley, the first thought that went into my head is: oh my god, like, what don't we know?
This is one of the craziest stories I've ever heard.
Kayla would be swept up into a much larger scandal. One that's still unfolding. And that threatens to undermine the entire surrogacy industry.
There's clearly a loophole in relation to Sarrogacy.
That's not a loophole. That circus he has designed. The scandal would raise uncomfortable questions about who gets to be a parent. I'm really afraid that people who have no other way to have a family, this will be taken away from them. And it would prompt investigations by child welfare and law enforcement agencies.
For all intents and purposes, she's kidnapped the child. That's what she's done.
The Bureau refused to comment on the case, but Arcadia Police confirmed that their detectives are working with the FBI. We believe that it extended beyond our city and into possibly other parts of the country and maybe internationally.
I'm Ava Kaufman. An investigative reporter at the New Yorker. From in the dark. And the New Yorker. This is the journey. Episode one. Gifts.
Oh the pleasure. I'm
trying to dig up information for you on my old female. No rush. Kind of crazy here, I'm sorry. I'm gonna get my kids settled over there eating with their movies so that they're not there's no rush. So where where do you live at? You live in New York? I live in Los Angeles.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the premise of Kayla Elliott’s surrogate journey?
0:00–6:46
2
How did Kayla become matched with the Arcadia couple?
6:46–13:24
3
What medical steps did Kayla undergo during her pregnancy?
13:24–19:49
4
When did Kayla discover the couple’s extensive family and possible wrongdoing?
19:49–26:59
5
How did the police, FBI, and child‑welfare agencies become involved?
26:59–34:18
6
What was the impact of the scandal on Kayla’s personal life and finances?
34:18–40:27
7
How did other surrogates connect and respond to the investigation?
40:27–48:05
8
What broader questions does this case raise about surrogacy regulation?
48:05–56:04
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