4 - Post-Roe America: Uprooted
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Welcome back to The Nocturnists, Post-Roe America. I'm Dr. Allie Block. In March 2023, Sandpoint, Idaho made national news for the first time in its 125-year history.
A small hospital in North Idaho is getting national attention tonight after it announced late last week that it is closing its labor and delivery services.
Bonner General, Sandpoint's only hospital, and the only hospital for two counties in Idaho and surrounding communities in Montana and Washington, cited multiple reasons for the closure. But one of the main contributing factors, they said, was the Dobbs decision. The
hospital announced the closure of its labor and delivery services Friday. The hospital says it's struggling to retain staff because, in part, of Idaho's anti-abortion laws.
The community was thrown into disarray. Everyone had a different opinion on the matter.
We Democrats raised the alarm every which way we could and said there's no health exception in this. You're going to criminalize doctors and put them in an impossible situation for trying to save women's lives. We knew eventually doctors were going to be leaving
the state. Today we start in Sandpoint, Idaho. What happens to a place when its clinicians are forced to leave? What's it like to be pushed from your home because of your work? And what becomes of the health care workers and communities that are left behind?
Well, the biggest impact locally has been the loss of our obstetricians, a group of four that essentially collapsed within the course of just a couple of months.
This is Scott Dunn, a family medicine physician at Bonner Health.
They were delivering 350 to 400 children a year in our hospital, and they are gone. It all just happened in the flick of an eye. after 108 years.
How did the Dobbs decision trigger the closure of Bonner General’s labor and delivery unit in Idaho?
So they've been delivering babies here for 108 years. My first thought was, well, we can fix this. There must be a way. So I called the hospital CEO and I said, we need to meet. Okay. She said, let's get everybody together and meet, which we did the following week. And I just asked her, I said, is this irreversible? She said, no, I don't think it's irreversible. So there was some hope, and we had a second meeting. But the poison already had gotten in the water.
It was a Friday afternoon, I think I got the email, and one of their reasons was Idaho's legal and political climate seems to be changing, and this is going to make recruitment harder, and
This is Zach Halverson, also a family medicine doctor in Sandpoint. He works at a clinic across the street from the hospital.
Do I think that the Dobbs decision played a big role here? I think it played a small role.
It turns out the hospital had been losing money for a while, and the labor and delivery floor was one of the most expensive and least profitable departments. The board's most recent attempt at cutting costs had been to redefine the responsibilities of the labor and delivery nurses. When there were patients in labor, the nurses would work labor and delivery, but otherwise they'd work in other departments. The nurses' union refused.
In the week leading up to the announcement, apparently the nurses all got a pink slip. The hospital said you're fired, but we might be able to rehire you in a week or so if we can reorganize.
The hospital planned to fire them and then rehire them with legally rewritten job descriptions.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:31
2
How did the Dobbs decision trigger the closure of Bonner General’s labor and delivery unit in Idaho?
2:31–10:18
3
What impact did the loss of obstetricians have on the Sandpoint community and its patients?
10:18–16:18
4
Why did Dr. Amelia Hunsberger decide to leave Idaho after the trigger‑ban became law?
16:18–22:22
5
How did Dr. Layla Zahedi‑Spung’s career path change after Roe was overturned in Tennessee?
22:22–29:08
6
What legal and personal risks did Dr. Zahedi‑Spung face providing abortion care in a post‑Roe state?
29:08–29:47