Facing the Alzheimer's Crisis with Jason Karlawish, MD
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What is the current scale of the Alzheimer’s crisis in the United States?
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Alzheimer's disease. Believe it or not, it used to be a rare diagnosis. But now, people are living longer and we know much more about the disease. In 2020, around 5.8 million Americans were living with Alzheimer's, a number that is projected to triple to 14 million by 2060. How do we deal with this crisis? You're listening to the Nocturneist Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman. Today I'm speaking with physician author Jason Carlowish. He's a professor of medicine at the University of Pennsylvania and co-director of the Penn Memory Center, where he cares for patients with dementia. He's published writing in the New York Times, The Washington Post, Forbes, The Hill, Stat, and The Philadelphia Inquirer, and his most recent work of nonfiction, The Problem of Alzheimer's, how science, culture, and politics turned a rare disease into a crisis, and what we can do about it.
Before we chatted, I asked Jason to read a brief excerpt from his book. Here's Jason.
The disease of the century. By the cold Friday afternoon in january twenty ten, when I met Edith Harrison for a new patient appointment at the Penn Memory Center, her memory problems had been going on for at least four, maybe five years. Her husband, Ed, struggled to pinpoint exactly when they started. At first the problems were subtle. She was making more lists. She snapped, You do too, when he pointed this out to her. But I've always made them. You've just started. She turned on her heel and strode smartly out of the kitchen. A door slammed. Maybe it is just aging, he decided. And so he let it go. In the months that followed, her memory trickled away. She'd forget an item from the grocery store and repeat a story she'd told him earlier in the day.
Otherwise, though, she seemed fine. It was the call from the homeowners association that caused him to worry. Is there something wrong, mister Harrison? asked the officious deputy director. You haven't paid your fee in three months. For the first time since they married, he looked at their joint checking account. Her handwriting, like her, was still elegant, but the balance was in disarray. Maybe this isn't aging. A visit to her primary care doctor for help was too quick and essentially useless. It ended not with a diagnosis, but instead with an antibiotic. The nurse who telephoned with the results of the MRI of her brain reported there was no tumor or stroke, but there was sinusitis. The prescribed antibiotic caused two weeks of diarrhea.
That was in two thousand eight. There were more doctors and more medications for low thyroid, high anxiety, and chronic fatigue, but no clear diagnosis. In time they settled into a new normal. He did the bills, they shopped and cooked together, and she watched a lot of TV. Diagnosis didn't seem to matter. It was their daughter who sounded the alarm. She was back from an extended tour of duty with the army in the Middle East. Dad, something's really wrong with mom. She held her hands out before her father, like she intended to shake him. They waited six months for a new patient appointment at the memory center.
Thanks for being here, Jason.
Oh it's a pleasure for having me. Thank you, Emily.
So this is an amazing comprehensive history of Alzheimer's disease ranging from The science of it, to the culture of it, to the politics and the history, just All different dimensions. To begin, I would love to hear how this book came about.
At first it was going to be about me. And it was going to be called My Confession: Professions of an Alzheimer's Doctor, you know, because I had all these stories, all these narratives of my patients and me. And that worked for a while to sort of get me into the narrative mode, but then I realized this is not about me.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the current scale of the Alzheimer’s crisis in the United States?
0:00–7:00
2
How did the early patient story of Edith Harrison illustrate diagnostic challenges?
7:00–21:06
3
Why did Dr. Karlawish change his book’s title from a personal confession to “The Problem of Alzheimer’s”?
21:06–28:49
4
What motivated Dr. Karlawish to switch from critical‑care fellowship to geriatrics?
28:49–41:36
5
How does the book differentiate Alzheimer’s disease from normal aging, MCI, and dementia?
41:36–45:42