From Pharmacy to Fiction with Ruth Madievsky

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Emily Silverman 0:00
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Emily Silverman 0:24
You're listening to The Nocturnist Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman. Today, I'm joined by Ruth Marijewski, a clinical pharmacist and writer whose debut novel, All Night Pharmacy, has been named a finalist for both the California Book Award and the Lambda Literary Award. She also wrote a book of poems called Emergency Break. Ruth's novel is a darkly poetic exploration of sisterhood, addiction, and the pull of personal identity told through a really unique lens that only Ruth could bring. In our conversation, Ruth talks about her life as a clinical pharmacist, the way that she blends clinical precision with literary storytelling, the origin story of the novel, the thread of mysticism that weaves its way through the narrative, and how her family's roots in Moldova and the legacy of intergenerational trauma have shaped her work and her sense of self.
Emily Silverman 1:24
But before we dive in, take a listen to Ruth reading an excerpt from her novel, All Night Pharmacy.
Ruth Madievsky 1:37
Spending time with my sister Debbie was like buying acid off a guy you met on the bus. You never knew if it would end with you, euphoric, tanning topless on a fishing boat headed for Ensenada, or coming to in a gas station bathroom, the insides of your eyes feeling as though they'd been scraped out with spoons. Often, it was both. The first time Debbie took me to Salvation, she dressed me in a highlighter pink bandage dress with cutouts up the sides. She wouldn't let me wear a bra. Nipple outline is part of the look, she insisted. We were at her apartment, a dingy West Hollywood complex with permanent pigeon shit stains on its maroon awnings. She lived there with her on-again, off-again musician boyfriend, Dominic, who was really just an addict with a guitar.
Ruth Madievsky 2:29
He wrote songs with names like Heroin Heroin and Salty Surprise. If he'd ever made money off his music, it left his hand before it reached his wallet. I watched Debbie do my makeup in her filmy bathroom mirror. She held a smoky eye palette in her palm like a clamshell. Lips parted as she painted my face. Debbie had big blue eyes and a pout that made men do stupid things. People said we looked alike, but no one ever mistook one of us for the other. Debbie wore her body like she owned it. For me, it was the other way around. She was only five foot two, but that made her more powerful. You could fall asleep spooning her and wake up with a screwdriver pressed to your throat. She was so alive, it was scary. I could hear her heart beating from another room.
Ruth Madievsky 3:22
Sometimes she bruised herself sleeping. Her blood was that close to the surface.
Emily Silverman 3:47
I am here with Ruth Madievsky. Ruth, thanks so much for coming to speak with me today.
Ruth Madievsky 3:53
Thank you for having me. I'm such a fan of the pod.
Emily Silverman 3:56
So Ruth, I think you might be the first pharmacist that we've had on the show and really excited to hear a little bit more about that. Tell us about your path to pharmacy and the kind of work you do.
Ruth Madievsky 4:07
Oh, sure. I'm thrilled to represent the profession, even though I don't know if I'm the person they would have chosen. So my path to pharmacy, it's a typical immigrant coming of age story where I was born in Moldova. My family immigrated here when I was two. My dad's a gastroenterologist. My mom is a pharmacist. And so from a really young age, health care and dedicating your life to a service of others was on the forefront of my mind. And also a job that had a lot of stability, which is very much kind of an immigrant value. So I've known I was going to be a pharmacist since I was probably nine, but I've also always loved reading. I've always loved writing. And I had some angst growing up about choosing one or the other, but
Ruth Madievsky 4:50
Around college time, I became friends with a lot of other writers and realized that I could write, I could publish that didn't have to happen away from working in healthcare.

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