Grief, Science, and Poetry with Jenny Qi

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Who is Jenny Qi and what is her poetry collection “Focal Point” about?

Emily Silverman 0:00
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Emily Silverman 1:43
You're listening to The Nocturnist Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman. Today's guest is Jenny Chee. Jenny is the author of Focal Point, winner of the 2020 Steel Toe Books Poetry Award. Her writing has been published in The New York Times and The Atlantic. She's a 2022 to 2023 Brown Handler resident, and she's received support from Tin House and others. Born in Pennsylvania to Chinese immigrants, she grew up mostly in Las Vegas and now lives in San Francisco, where she completed her PhD in cancer biology. Currently, she's working on more essays and poems and translating her late mother's memoirs. Before I spoke with Jenny, I asked her to read Tila Mears and a 2AM Love Poem, one of the poems from her collection, Focal Point.
Emily Silverman 2:30
Here's Jenny.
Jenny Qi 2:34
These are the only kind I'll write you when I should be reading about telomeres, how they guard the ends of chromosomes and wane with every breath we take, leaving fragments of ourselves behind as our cells grow and divide and become ever more vulnerable as we grow older. I have the sudden brilliant thought that the chromosomes in our heart cells must have the shortest telomeres of all. And I think how I can only admit that I might tolerate slash like slash love you when my science becomes this bleary-eyed, delirious brain mush. These nights, I look at you sleeping and want to press my lips to your forehead, tug a corner of the sheet from beneath your arm, tuck myself in its place. Come morning, you'll be just a heavy arm slung across my stomach, too warm body curled around my spine.
Jenny Qi 3:41
But now I think mad thoughts like how maybe you could be an exception and how maybe I could do this every night and how maybe we could let our telomeres shorten together.
Emily Silverman 3:59
Thank you so much for that reading. It's so nice to have you here. You are the first poet that I've interviewed for the Nocturnist Conversation. So I'm so excited to talk about your collection and your process and poetry and science and all of the above.
Jenny Qi 4:15
Thank you, Emily. Yeah, I'm excited. And I'm excited to be the first poet you're talking to.
Emily Silverman 4:21
Before we get into the poetry side of things, tell us about your journey to the health sciences. I know that you have a PhD in cancer biology. How did you get interested in cancer, in research, and walk us through that process for you?
Jenny Qi 4:38
I mean, I guess like many children of immigrants, my parents wanted me to be a physician when I grew up because that would be something pretty stable. And so I spent most of my life being pre-med. And in college, I found my way to research because I started working in a lab.

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