Showtime with Allan Detsky, MD
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This is the Nocturnous Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman. Medicine is often seen as a world of science, logic, and efficiency. But what happens when we bring in something unexpected? Like musical theater? Dr. Alan Detsky is a well-known physician in Canadian internal medicine and health economics. He's a physician, professor, and researcher with over ninety-five publications in JAMA and the New England Journal of Medicine. But as we learn in today's episode, he's also a lifelong lover of Broadway, and even a producer of hit shows like Come From Away. During the COVID-19 pandemic, as masked faces and Zoom meetings stripped away the humanity from medical training, Allen turned to musical theater as a tool to reconnect with his team.
Every day, he gathered his students and residents for a short ritual, sitting down together and watching a music video. At first it was a lighthearted distraction, but over time it became something more. A lesson in observation, emotion, and connection. In my conversation with Alan, we talk about how health economics shapes his perspective on healthcare, the differences between the Canadian and US healthcare systems, his unexpected journey into Broadway producing, and why he believes that every physician should bring their outside passion into their teaching. Ellen is a natural storyteller with a wealth of experience in both medicine and the arts, and I hope you enjoy my conversation with him as much as I did.
But first, take a listen to Alan reading from his piece, The Music Video.
In March twenty twenty, the Covid nineteen pandemic imposed changes. First, we put on masks that prevented us from seeing faces of other team members. Second We limited the number of team members visiting the bedside of patients to reduce exposure of healthcare personnel to COVID nineteen. Third. We moved in person large group meetings, like Grand Rounds, to Zoom. Where most participants turned off their cameras. These changes led to the loss of an important aspect of humanity. face to face interaction. In response, I looked for a way to reintroduce humanity into our time together. I stumbled on something from my background in musical theatre production. An activity that I soon called The music video. Every day our team takes four to six minutes to watch a video that contains music.
At first I used the videos as a diversion to lift our spirits. With no other purpose other than entertaining the team. But over time, our reactions motivated me to pursue more specific objectives. These include setting a mood for the day, upbeat, fun. Mellow, introspective, sad. Improving our powers of observation. Displaying my passion for this form of art to role model broadening one's horizons, and teaching them something about musical theater. As a general theme, these viewings show the power of vocal performance to bring us out of ourselves and into contact with others. We couldn't see each other's faces, something we dearly missed, but we could all see the facial expressions of the artists. I developed a list of favorites.
I always start with upbeat videos, usually either Joshua Lee Turner's Band on the Bus version of Baby Driver, or the twenty eighteen Tony presentation of Once on This Island. The former shows a group of five musicians on their tour bus happily covering a Simon and Garfunkel hit song. It's impossible not to smile while viewing it. It's a toe tapper. The latter is, in my opinion, the best example of a performance of a Tony Award program because it motivates viewers to see the show. Matthew Thomas Grant's Thank Me Now from the Los Angeles production of Emojiland The Musical evokes emotions of first year residents in the middle of a night on call, complete with the anger and intensity of circumstances when asked to simultaneously handle ten urgent clinical tasks.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–16:31
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What is the premise of Dr. Detsky’s “Music Video” ritual for medical teams?
16:31–29:03
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What lessons does Dr. Detsky draw from musical theater to improve observation and empathy in medical education?
29:03–38:03
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Why does Dr. Detsky believe every physician should bring an outside passion into teaching?
38:03–52:52