That's Ninja Doc to You with Meghan O'Brien, MD
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It's hard to take care of patients whose lives are chaotic outside the hospital. They may have unstable housing or struggle with addiction, making it tough for them to take their medicines or show up to their appointments. How do doctors deal with this reality? I'm Emily Silverman, and this is The Nocturnists, stories about what it's like to work in medicine. In this episode, hospitalist Megan O'Brien talks about the challenges that came up when she took care of one particular patient who was homeless. Afterward, we talk about how we cope with the dysfunction of the healthcare system and how much emotional stamina is needed to take care of vulnerable patients. Have a listen to Megan O'Brien.
So you know how sometimes in medicine you have these moments where real trumps your professionalism? I had one of these moments when I was a senior on the cardiology service, and it's an interesting service, or it's unique in that it pairs you one-on-one with an intern. But we had a pretty good team, and we were doing pretty well until we hit a blip in the road one day trying to discharge one of our homeless patients to respite, which is where they can go to get a roof over their head and a bed as they recuperate. And I'll call this patient Mr. Miles. And I knew Mr. Miles pretty well. He had tight, narrow wings in his coronary arteries. And his heart was sort of big and boggy from the drugs he did and the alcohol and some small heart attacks that he had had along the way.
And so anytime he got extra fluid on his body or anytime he did drugs that made his blood pressure go up, his heart would demand more oxygen than the blood squeaking through those little arteries could supply. And so I thought I knew him well, medically at least. We cared for him for the next few days and every morning we would walk into his room and I would toss open the curtains and let the sun come pouring in and sort of cloyingly greet him like, good morning. Time
to wake up.
Get out of bed. Sort of just trying to like will the hope or fight or something back in him. And then we would do our thing and as everyone would migrate out of his room, I would stick around and put the bed back down. And every morning, as I did that, I said, how about a shower today, Mr.
Miles? I think it would really help you feel better. And I was serious about that. But he was also the sort of guy where the street
had built up on him and really threatened to keep sort of distance between the people who cared for him and his humanity. And so I would ask him this every day. And he would always respond to me, if he responded at all, like, no, I'm too tired today. And I didn't think it was just that he was sleepy. I had the sense that it was that he was like that at the core sort of tired that happens when you like have been sick for too long and you don't like really want to keep going. And the social worker who was awesome, I think she felt this way too. And so she had worked really hard to get him to respite, to get a reprieve from all of his illness. But when we got the call that the bed was ready, it was 1 PM.
And they said he needed to be out the door to be there at 2 PM. And there was not a medicine reconciled, and not medicine filled, and not a discharge summary done.
Who is Mr. Miles and what made his case a turning point for Dr. Megan O’Brien?
And all these things needed to happen before he got there. So it was this massive Herculean effort on the part of the social worker, and the nurses, and the pharmacists, and the medical students, and the residents, and the intern. And everyone worked together. And we did it. And we got him out the door. And we
were, like, gloating triumphant and, like, high-fiving and, like, probably chest-bumping. Maybe that's how it is in my memory. It was, like, really, really triumphant. And
we got a call that he didn't show up.
And so, like, I raised my hand in this really cartoonish, like, but totally genuine sort of, you know, symbol of exasperation and, like, said some really colorful and unprofessional words to describe the feeling of being duped.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why does The Nocturnists emphasize patient privacy and legal compliance at the start of each episode?
0:00–3:28
2
Who is Mr. Miles and what made his case a turning point for Dr. Megan O’Brien?
3:28–6:42
3
What obstacles did the care team face when trying to discharge Mr. Miles to a respite facility?
6:42–11:12
4
How did Dr. O’Brien react when Mr. Miles missed his respite appointment and what did the team learn?
11:12–15:46
5
Why did the unexpected street encounter with Mr. Miles feel like a ‘ninja doc’ moment?
15:46–20:54
6
What does the contrast between Mr. Miles’s hospital demeanor and his street behavior reveal about patient agency?
20:54–23:57
7
How do systemic issues like housing, insurance, and care coordination amplify burnout for doctors caring for vulnerable patients?
23:57–27:04
8
What strategies does Dr. O’Brien use to maintain resilience and compassion while navigating the revolving‑door of homelessness and addiction?
27:04–32:31