The Chaplain and the Doctor with Chaplain Betty Clark & Jessica Zitter, MD
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What is the premise of “The Chaplain and the Doctor” documentary?
This is how women's health has been for decades. People aren't studying women because they have this excuse that it's too complicated. In the beginning, I think they tried to treat us like, just don't worry your pretty little head about this. Just run along and we'll take care of the science. So this lack of insight makes women poorer. This community had been there all along in the shadows. We'd all just kind of been dealing with it. In the shadows. You know that spot, right? But despite the obstacles, things are changing. Women's health is not half of healthcare. We are more than half the market. Someone should be doing this, so why not me? I'm Golda Arthur, and this is Overlooked, a podcast with a point of view that women's health cannot wait.
Not anymore. And this season, we're bringing you stories and conversations with people who are moving the needle. Scientists who are doing some wild things right now in women's health. It is unusual. We are collecting menstrual blood because it is just a source of so many great cell types and biomarkers. Researchers who are learning more about Alzheimer's in women. This made me think, oh my gosh, Alzheimer's disease could start as soon as the brain stops developing. And men who are stepping up. Get them to shift to curiosity and you have planted the seed of a champion. And more stories about endometriosis, preeclampsia, birth control, ovarian cancer, tampon testing, C-sections, and menopause. This season features episodes that will open up your understanding of the science inside your body.
And you can take that information straight to your next doctor's appointment. And this season's guests have strong opinions. She basically said, I think you're thinking of menstruation as an illness. I can just sit here and free bleed if I want. And I think they got the message loud and clear. If we had been studying women all along and they said to us that we had to study men now, We would say, but men are too simple. It's not a good representation of biology. Season five is coming September 16th. So follow the show now wherever you get your podcasts.
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This is The Nocturnist Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman. Today, I'm joined by Dr. Jessica Zitter and Chaplain Betty Clark, two healers whose friendship became the heart of a remarkable new documentary film, The Chaplain and the Doctor. Jessica is a critical care and palliative care physician and the author of the book, Extreme Measures, Finding a Better Path to the End of Life. She's also a filmmaker whose work examines how we live and die in the modern hospital. Betty Clark is a hospital chaplain, community leader and lifelong caregiver whose warmth, candor and spiritual insight have guided patients and families through some of their most difficult moments. Together, Jessica and Betty explore what it means to care, not only for patients, but for each other.
Their collaboration began in the hallways of Oakland's Highland Hospital and grew into a deep friendship that bridges race, faith, and professional hierarchy. In my conversation with Jessica and Betty, we talk about how a physician and a chaplain built trust and friendship in a safety net hospital. The craft of chaplaincy and what it means to look with your ears and listen with your eyes. Recognizing bias and racism in medicine and learning to meet them with honesty and humility. the idea of the wounded healer and how our personal stories shape the way that we show up for others, and how to find connection, grace, and hope in increasingly divided times. It's a rich and intimate conversation about friendship, power, and presence, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
But before we dive in, take a listen to the trailer for the documentary film, The Chaplain and the Doctor.
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