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The NoSleep Podcast

S24 Ep14: NoSleep Podcast S24E14

03 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What themes emerge from the tales of the Cape Fear River?

7.895 - 60.801 David Cummings

Water. It gives us life. We are drawn to it. Yet it holds immense power over us. It can bring unspeakable horror to the most familiar places. Your morning shower, a tranquil riverbank, or the endless ocean. it's time to dive deep into the abyss. From the dark waters of the Cape Fear River, immerse yourself in horror as you brace yourself for the No Sleep Podcast.

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90.599 - 117.568 Mike DelGaudio

There's a specific kind of fear that sticks with you. For me, it started at a sleepover when I was about 13 years old. Somebody put on a VHS tape of faces of death. And the rumor going around at the time was that it was all real. Not staged, not effects, a documentary. At that age, you don't question it. You just absorb it.

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118.375 - 142.78 Mike DelGaudio

I remember lying awake that night, staring at the ceiling, trying to process what I had just seen, and wishing I hadn't. If we haven't met before, my name is Mike DelGaudio, and you might know me from my work here as a voice actor on the No Sleep Podcast. Not long after that sleepover, I went to see A Nightmare on Elm Street in the theaters. Just came out, brand new.

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143.603 - 171.554 Mike DelGaudio

And in hindsight, that was maybe not the best follow-up to Faces of Death. And that was kind of it for me, at least for a while. Visual horror just didn't sit right. It felt imposed, like I was being shown something I couldn't unsee. Yeah, well, seeing those horror movies as a young and naive pup was its kind of own version of psychological trauma.

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171.574 - 196.403 Mike DelGaudio

But around that same time, I found Stephen King. It started with Christine. It was a Christmas gift in hardback when it first came out. And then I just sort of kept going, book after book after book. And that was a completely different experience. Because with those stories, the horror wasn't being shown to me. It was happening in my head. I was building it.

196.984 - 222.585 Mike DelGaudio

I was filling in the blanks, making it as intense or as restrained as I could handle. Sometimes, if I didn't understand what I was reading, I could just keep going. I could elide over the parts that I had to, or really visualize the parts that I really wanted to sit with. And I think that's what stuck. The idea that the most effective horror, for me anyway, isn't something I was shown.

223.346 - 248.806 Mike DelGaudio

It's something I participate in. It's something I bring with me. And it's something that can get better with time. I know that reading The Stand by Stephen King when I was 15 was a very different experience than when I read it at 30 and then reading it again when I was, well, let's just say older, shall we? That's part of why I've always loved audio drama, especially horror audio drama.

248.827 - 274.65 Mike DelGaudio

I mean, the first audio drama I ever heard was a cassette of The Mist by Stephen King. Some of you may know that. And I think I was a sophomore in high school when that came out, and I just loved it. And I think I loved it because you don't get the full picture. You get just enough. A voice, a moment, a suggestion. And the rest is yours. Isn't that incredible?

275.451 - 302.106 Mike DelGaudio

Your version of the story is always going to be a little different than mine. And sometimes that makes it a lot more personal and a lot more unsettling. As I've gotten older, that kind of horror has only gotten stronger for me. Because the things that scare you change. I mean, when I was younger, it was the monsters, the unknown. But then life fills in some of those blanks for you.

Chapter 2: What is the story 'Forbearance' about and who are the characters?

563.92 - 581.271 Mike DelGaudio

When something small changes, something that's almost unnoticeable, it's hard to ignore. Because once you start paying attention like that, you tend to see more than you meant to. Performing this tale by Nicholas Hinchey are Mary Murphy, David Cummings, and Sarah Thomas.

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582.333 - 601.543 Mike DelGaudio

And when keeping things in order starts to matter more than keeping things right, you may find yourself practicing a little forbearance.

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603.7 - 627.705 David Cummings

Howard was never any good at keeping secrets. After 12 years of married life, a wife gets to know all the intricate ways that her husband behaves. For example, when Howard arrives home from the office, he always lets out a deep breath when he enters the door. The exhale lasts so long, I wonder if he's going to deflate on the carpet. But naturally, he doesn't.

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628.707 - 657.016 David Cummings

And then he regales me with stories about this and that from work. If I'm being honest, I have mostly tuned out his ramblings. A business supervisor, while paid well, doesn't have the most captivating tales to tell. I remember bits and pieces. Certain names sound familiar. A few events. But if Howard were to quiz me on the subject, I'd likely fail. Still, I put up a good front.

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657.596 - 683.976 David Cummings

I nod and smile while he talks. I time an O to escape my lips at the correct moment to make it seem like I'm paying attention. It has all become a comfortable routine. But one day that routine was broken. It was a Friday afternoon, and I was tidying myself up after a day of chores. My blonde hair was organized into a soft bob that shaped my face in a presentable manner.

684.897 - 707.805 David Cummings

I knew that hair should always be used to accentuate your features, not distract from them. My blue skirt and soft-sleeved top were perhaps a little outdated, although the ensemble had been quite fashionable in 1953. But I thought the outfit sensible for the day's activities, as I wouldn't want to risk unnecessary blemishes on my better clothes.

707.785 - 731.953 David Cummings

I was in the process of touching up my makeup when Howard came through the door. Our house had a way of carrying sound, and so I paused to listen for his exhale. But it never came. A new image arrived to my mind then. Instead of deflating, I imagined Howard feeling so full of air that he popped. Christine, dear? Bedroom! Bedroom!

732.929 - 755.207 David Cummings

The sound of his shiny black shoes grew closer as he walked over to me. The house was spacious, thanks to the substantial size of my husband's salary, but the decor was simple and tasteful. While Howard had argued for a flashier presentation with chandeliers and statement pieces, I managed to hold and check his reckless approach to interior design.

755.187 - 771.209 David Cummings

What was in the house was exactly what we needed. Chairs, tables, sofas, and lights were all placed in reasonable but still appealing locations. Everything was in order, just like it should be. Everything except for Howard.

Chapter 3: What triggers the horror in 'Unprompted' by Michael Fallon?

1191.157 - 1218.922 David Cummings

This time, the words were dull. Do you not like the way I manage things around here? Does it bore you? What's with all these questions? Look, I... Everything is just so precise now. Careful. Feels like I'm walking on eggshells with you. The honesty in his voice was apparent, and I acknowledged his comment with a nod. I see.

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1218.962 - 1248.724 David Cummings

The matchstick-like flicker appeared in his eyes as he took a confident stride toward me. It had been a while since he'd been so bold. Do you never have the urge to simply relax, let loose, do what you want and not worry about what happens next? Doesn't that seem fun? I thought about the stain on his collar. Was that what he considered fun? Without order, our lives would fall to pieces, darling.

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1249.685 - 1273.387 David Cummings

You of all people should be well aware of that. Would it? The sound of his voice stretched out as if he were suddenly a whining dog. I see how you watch me. It's like you're waiting for me to make a mistake. Do you know how that feels? I pushed past him and opened a cabinet, retrieving a glass jar and placing it on the table.

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1274.73 - 1302.25 David Cummings

I do not, but seeing how big the company you work for is, I imagine that I could ask one of your employees... The word employees had a profound effect on my husband's demeanor. His confident stance retreated into a slouch, and the flicker in his eyes died out. I felt my heart race at that moment. I savored his pain as I poured a few blueberries from the basket into the jar.

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1303.471 - 1333.269 David Cummings

Dear, I thought we decided never to mention that again. Yes, we had agreed to never speak about the particulars of the event. Howard always seemed so ashamed of the foolish way he handled things. This was a part of my forbearance. It was clumsy of me to make that remark, no matter how badly I wanted to. For a moment, I had actually lived life the way my husband wanted, recklessly. I apologize.

1334.651 - 1363.264 David Cummings

I twisted the lid shut on top of the blueberries. Just give me some space for a while. Give me some time without your eyes on me. I did my best not to stare at the stain on his collar. Instead, I only looked into his eyes, trying to find the reason why I chose to remain with him for as long as I had. I will, darling. I popped a stray blueberry into my mouth. I trust you.

1367.227 - 1393.943 David Cummings

Let it not be said that I wasn't a woman of my word. For the next few weeks, I turned a blind eye to the strange behaviors of my husband. My comments to him were limited to my occasional O's during his after-work conversations and a few passing remarks. At first, I believed he enjoyed his freedom from my watchful gaze. His slender shoulders were more relaxed than usual.

1394.598 - 1425.012 David Cummings

and he moved about the house in an oddly leisurely manner, as though he had somehow been released from my control. After a while, though, he grew restless. I found him staring at me whenever I entered the room, his eyes wide with anticipation. I wondered if Howard wanted me to break my promise. Maybe he missed the attention of my gaze now that it was gone. I enjoyed this idea immensely.

1425.994 - 1452.921 David Cummings

However, as the days continued to pass, I was disappointed to find that his anticipation dwindled. He behaved as though all was well, and that nothing was out of the ordinary. I loathed the idea that he didn't need me to guide him. Even more so, I dreaded the idea that this was the truth. I maintained my composure. The last thing I wanted was for Howard to see a crack in my resolve.

Chapter 4: How does 'The Neighbourhood Watcher' explore the concept of surveillance?

2176.171 - 2206.016 David Cummings

Because you love me? No, that's not it. I look down at the supplanted remains of my blueberry bush. I think it's because I love hating you. I must admit, this night was quite a thrill. You led danger straight through our front door, threatened the lives that we've built here, and you did it on a whim. You could have destroyed everything in a second of impulse. But I am here to fix it for you.

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2206.897 - 2228.732 David Cummings

This is what I'm good at. What I enjoy. I couldn't have that if we hadn't found each other all those years ago. Will we have to move again? Did anyone know of your affair? No. No, I don't think so. Then perhaps not. We've gotten away with it before. We should be able to do so again.

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2230.214 - 2255.243 David Cummings

A rush filled my body as I thought about the future, of the delicious lengths that I might have to go to to maintain our image of innocent normalcy. Suddenly, the shovel struck something firm, and the two of us shared a knowing look. Together, we shoved the rug into the hole, placing the body of the new Janet on top of the bones of the original.

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2255.223 - 2307.582 David Cummings

As Howard started to refill the grave, I wondered if replanting blueberries was worth it. Our little peculiarities were bound to disrupt them again. But after a moment of reflection, I decided a new crop was in order. After all, life must go on, and I've always enjoyed a routine. Let's take a short break for our sponsors who help us keep our heads above water for waves of ad-free horror content.

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2307.782 - 2333.56 David Cummings

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2334.061 - 2354.886 David Cummings

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2355.326 - 2377.761 David Cummings

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2378.141 - 2404.249 David Cummings

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2404.229 - 2435.255 David Cummings

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Chapter 5: What psychological elements are present in 'Peelers Club'?

3003.419 - 3031.827 M. L. Hollowell

Transcription. Marielle is asking me to reach down the colander from on top of the cupboard. I might put it up there if you can't reach it. I'm back. The house is dark now. Quiet and still, blessedly. The only light is the desk lamp I plugged into an extension cord and placed on the table next to me. It's hours later, of course.

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3033.85 - 3062.098 M. L. Hollowell

If you're wondering what happened earlier tonight when my wife asked me to get the colander... I stood suddenly. The vinyl-backed metal chair tipped back and slammed to the floor. Everybody froze. They looked shocked. Because I don't do that sort of thing. Blow my top. Except when I'm pushed to the edge. And what do they expect? Could anyone write a novel in the midst of that cacophony?

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3062.138 - 3094.684 M. L. Hollowell

Or even a measly short story? I got the colander, because who else is going to do it? They're all too short. I slapped the colander on the counter. There you go. It wasn't that loud. It's plastic. I grabbed up my laptop, notebook, and pen and marched out of the kitchen, though I dropped the pen and then almost dropped the laptop when I was picking up the pen.

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3095.445 - 3130.222 M. L. Hollowell

And I swear, Mario and the kids were standing stock still and gaping after me like I just tore the kitchen apart. Jesus, like I'm at fault. Who is the more sinned against? Whom? Is it any wonder I'm blocked? Because on some level, they don't want me to make it. To become the next whoever. They want me stuck here, like this, forever. Before we ate, I made an apology. But did they reciprocate?

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3131.183 - 3154.488 M. L. Hollowell

They did not. I explained that when Daddy is working, he needs quiet. He needs to concentrate. And my youngest, Gabrielle, she's six, had the gall to say... But you're not at work, Daddy. You're a teacher. I kept my smile in place and explained that teaching is just my job. My day job.

3156.072 - 3161.042 Graham Rowat

What's a day job? All right. Can we eat? We accept your apology.

3162.203 - 3190.641 M. L. Hollowell

I kept my mouth shut, choosing to keep the peace. Though my wife seemed to think by the look on her face that I was serving the pasta too violently, so I gently handed her the tongs and let her do it. I have a psychiatrist. Not a psychiatrist, a therapist. Marielle insisted after I tore the cupboard door off its hinges while looking for my favorite cereal bowl. Because of my anger issues...

3191.735 - 3221.607 M. L. Hollowell

I don't have anger issues. I have anger. I don't have issues. That cupboard door is already loose. Dr. G can't prescribe meds, which is just as well. I don't want to plunge down a pharmacological well and find I can't connect with my muse anymore. I don't have a muse. What's the opposite of a muse? I think Dr. G has just about given up on me, though.

3222.008 - 3252.6 M. L. Hollowell

All she does is listen to me complain about writer's block. Out of desperation, she said she had an idea. Prompts. She said you can get writing prompts all over the internet. I know that, of course. But I don't need somebody else giving me ideas. Or an AI, right? But she said it would just be an exercise. A way to prime the pump, of getting the juices flowing, of charging the batteries.

Chapter 6: What are the key elements of audio drama in horror storytelling?

3752.005 - 3752.386 Graham Rowat

Of course.

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3754.329 - 3754.93 M. L. Hollowell

You don't remember?

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3754.97 - 3757.214 Graham Rowat

No.

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3759.157 - 3759.698 M. L. Hollowell

You woke up?

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3762.562 - 3765.968 Graham Rowat

Did I? I don't remember.

3768.051 - 3781.79 M. L. Hollowell

She shrugged. She was filling her Stanley thermos with coffee. You know, I've been thinking. What's that? Oh, that's when ideas go through my head.

3784.893 - 3785.614 Graham Rowat

Okay, I don't have time.

3786.916 - 3792.702 M. L. Hollowell

I was wondering if there's enough sex in my work. She screwed the top on her thermos, distracted.

3794.003 - 3796.086 Graham Rowat

Enough? How much is in there now?

Chapter 7: How does the episode reflect on the nature of fear and routine?

4578.353 - 4607.247 M. L. Hollowell

but I am desperately awaiting the time when they all go to bed, so I can get back to work. I need to start, goddammit. I hover the cursor over the proceed box, unloose a long exhalation of breath, and tap the mouse. The screen flicks from white to black and back again, per usual, and then the gear spins and spins and spins and spins. It seems like it's stuck that way.

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4608.661 - 4666.005 M. L. Hollowell

And then it produces three words. Ah, yes. An admonition credited to William Faulkner, but apparently coined by some other guy nobody's ever heard of. Kill your darlings. Third person. Past tense. Prompt number three. I'm sitting here, asking myself, what have I done? What have I wrought? I mean, never before have I written anything like that. I don't know if it's horror, but it's dark.

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4667.437 - 4676.911 M. L. Hollowell

I love dark. I am dark, but... Goddamn, the front door is wide open. BRB!

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4701.743 - 4738.575 M. L. Hollowell

Unbelievable. This fucking place. The living room is a disaster area. Strewn with construction paper, paint, everywhere. My feet are covered in glitter. I stubbed my toe on something. Turned out to be a claw hammer. You should see it caked with dark red paint, glistening like a candy apple, with feathery golden strands stuck to it. What a mess. I'm not too happy with this keyboard, either.

4739.877 - 4766.785 M. L. Hollowell

The keys are tacky. And now my hands are sticky, and my fingers keep sticking to the keys. Gabby plays at writing, mimicking her dad. Must have had paste on her fingers. Or one of the girls spilled juice on it or something. I tell myself that when I find the perpetrator, I'll give the young lady a stern talking to. But promise not to lose my top.

4769.669 - 4811.683 M. L. Hollowell

And, to be honest, I'm having second thoughts about what I wrote. Grave doubts. I think maybe I'm going to take another pass at it. It's just too grisly. Too awful. It went too far. I'm going to get rid of it and try again. Highlight. Control X. Empty trash. And sayonara. Not that it was trash, by any means. It was pretty damn good for what it was, but... I crossed a line.

4811.723 - 4846.585 M. L. Hollowell

A line I told myself I wouldn't cross. So now it's gone. Like King putting Pet Cemetery in a drawer. But mine is gone forever. Deleted. Erased. It was a sacrifice, but it's for the best. Sometimes you do have to kill your darlings. Jesus, those sirens! To wake the dead! Finally! Some peace.

4879.1 - 4904.151 Mike DelGaudio

And of course, thank you for supporting the No Sleep Podcast, for inviting us into your headphones, for sharing these stories, and for being part of what's made this show what it is over the years. You know, it's a rare thing to be part of something that lasts this long and still feels as strong as it does. So here's to that.

Chapter 8: What insights does the host share about the evolution of horror narratives?

5026.76 - 5038.352 David Cummings

No part of this audio program may be used or reproduced in any manner for the purpose of training artificial intelligence technologies or systems. All rights reserved.

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5043.513 - 5061.842 Unknown

Thank you.

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