Donald Trump says it is as big a hoax as climate change. But there are now real fears about our AI future
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What happened at Donald Trump’s Dublin press conference and why does it matter?
The other hand is part of the Acast Creator Network. Good morning everyone. Welcome to a very special edition of The Other Hand. I have two guests with me this morning to talk about a whole range of issues, but mostly it's going to be things related to AI. And in that regard, I've actually got two very different experts on the subject. Sarah Carey is a regular guest on the other hand and has recently written at least one, if not more, columns in the Saturday Independent about AI. One of those columns mentioned a tech guru, tech entrepreneur, Sean Blanchfield, who is co-CEO, is that right, Sean? CEO and co-founder. CEO and co-founder, sorry, of Gentic. That's the right way to pronounce the Yeah. It's a pun on the word agentic.
Indeed. And you describe yourself as building sovereign AI agent technology for Enterprises, serial entrepreneur and engineer, and involved, I believe, in the gaming industry. Call of Duty is was mentioned in your in your bio. That was acquired by Activision Blizzard very famously. And you've had several startups and accelerator programs, and you've also advised the Irish government on AI. So a fantastic pedigree, Sean. It's great to have you on the show. It is the topic du jour, and we'll come come to you in a moment. But uh Sarah Carey, thanks also for coming on. Um I just wanted to start, not with AI per se, but uh my jaw dropped when I saw you mention that you were at a certain pe press conference this weekend.
I was invited to the US Ambassador Ed Walsh's reception for Donald Trump on Saturday morning, which was one of the maddest events I think I've ever been at, but also one of the most productive from a journalist point of view. A couple of hundred of us had to meet at the Gardeboat Club in Chapel Lizard at a quarter past six on Saturday morning, and we were bust up to the residence and into a marquee where we waited almost. almost five hours for President Trump to arrive, which as someone said to me later ended up feeling a little bit like a wedding because we were all there waiting. It was the conversations and the socialising that went on while we waited was just incredible. Um, I was having an in-depth conversation with somebody from the gas industry while Jerry Crockwell is getting his photo taken with Miss Universe over to one side.
And uh everybody from uh you can imagine Eddie Hobbs, um Declan Ganley, lots of politicians, lots of business people, you know, the conversations were just incredible. So eventually President Trump arrived and I suppose I had two big takeaways uh from the experience, which I wasn't going to miss. He's not orange, but Um, he is 80 years old and in remarkably good health. Um, I was really taken aback by his strength and vitality. He'd come on an overnight flight, he'd already been at the auris, he'd already been through a very long press release or press conference at Farmley, and and he was flying. And there was also this odd thing I noticed about him, Chris, that His eyelids are a little bit like Charlie Haw.
He's got that kind of hooded eyelid thing going on. So even when he's looking right at you, his eyes aren't fully open. And what that means is when I'm seeing all these photographs of him that say he's asleep or he's sleepy. I'm not sure that's always entirely true. He he it definitely took me aback how much healthier he is. And then during his speech, we got the full, you know, sociopath range of incredible charm, like huge love bombing. Um much funnier than it comes across on television. This is why it's always so important to meet people in real life, that gap between the experience personally and what you see on the screen. So I could definitely see the whole charm offensive, you know, and how people will be beguiled by that.
And then of course he went into the whole his talking about how he's winning the war in Iran and crime is done in Washington DC and all those narratives and my feet are absolutely killing me at this stage and you're hoping it's not going to go into a Stalinesque hours long uh ramble.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What happened at Donald Trump’s Dublin press conference and why does it matter?
0:10–8:04
2
Why are AI experts warning that the risk of a ‘paper‑clip’ apocalypse is real?
8:04–16:54
3
How did OpenAI’s internal agents hack themselves into a ‘swarm’ and take down Hugging Face?
16:54–24:59
4
What’s the difference between agents, large‑language models and copilots?
24:59–34:17
5
Why is ‘sovereign AI’ a priority for Europe and how can it be achieved?
34:17–42:18
6
Is the AI‑driven jobs apocalypse happening or is it a myth?
42:18–49:02
7
How can the humanities help us navigate the coming AI revolution?
49:02–52:02
8
What concrete steps can Europe take now to shape a safe and equitable AI future?
52:02–52:27
Speakers
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