When Nobody's in Control: AI, Cyber Risk, and the Economics of Digital Trust

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AI has the potential to bring a host of benefits to society and the global economy. It has fueled optimism around productivity, disinflation, and debt sustainability. But like many innovations that came before it, AI also brings a new set of challenges. The same technology that might boost economic growth and lift people out of poverty could also serve as a tool for cyberwarfare and fraud. Using AI, digital crimes could become faster, cheaper, and more scalable. AI is also becoming a new chokepoint in geopolitical competition: The discussion explores whether control of digital verification layers may create strategic leverage. Shuman Ghosemajumder, co-founder of the AI and cybersecurity company Reken and former Global Head of Product for Trust & Safety at Google, joins PGIM's Daleep Singh to discuss how AI has expanded the field for cybercrime and why technology itself could be part of the solution. The conversation also covers: How the public and private sectors can manage cyber risks and develop defenses against AI-powered fraud Why AI could make infrastructure and organizations more secure using proprietary tools How public sentiment toward AI has evolved

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