https://page2pod.com - AI search is exploding in hype, but what does the data actually say? In this episode of the Page 2 Podcast, Jon Clark and Joe DeVita sit down with Patrick Reinhart, VP of Services & Thought Leadership at Conductor, to unpack one of the largest AEO and GEO benchmark studies ever conducted. After analyzing millions of prompts and billions of sessions, the surprising finding was that AI referral traffic currently accounts for only about 1% of total web traffic. So why are companies reorganizing teams and shifting budgets toward AI optimization? Patrick explains how AI search isn’t really about traffic (yet)**—it’s about **brand visibility, citations, sentiment, and authority across large language models like ChatGPT and Gemini. As traditional search and AI search converge, marketing teams must learn how to optimize for both ecosystems simultaneously. The conversation dives into the realities behind AI Overviews, the future of affiliate-heavy sites, why schema markup and proprietary research are becoming more valuable, and how brands should think about visibility when traffic might decline but revenue continues to grow. If you're an SEO, CMO, or digital marketer trying to navigate the AI transformation of search, this episode provides a clear, data-backed roadmap. 🔍 In This Episode • Why AI referral traffic is only ~1% today and why that number surprises many marketers • The difference between traditional SEO metrics vs AI search visibility signals • How brand sentiment, citations, and authority influence LLM results • Why affiliate-heavy sites are struggling in Google but thriving in LLMs • The industries triggering the most Google AI Overviews (healthcare & finance) • How CMOs are reallocating paid search budgets into AI initiatives • The role of schema markup and proprietary research in future search visibility • Why AI-generated content without human insight is getting crushed in rankings • The real reason direct traffic is increasing as people research with AI first • Predictions for AI search growth, e-commerce agents, and the future of traffic This episode reveals how search is fragmenting—and why smart marketers must optimize for both traditional search and AI discovery channels. 👍 Subscribe for more deep-dive conversations on SEO, AI search, and digital growth. 💬 Comment below: Do you think AI search will eventually replace Google traffic—or will traditional SEO remain dominant? Links and Resources Mentioned • Pat Reinhart on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickreinhart/ • 2026 AEO / GEO Benchmark Report - https://www.conductor.com/academy/aeo-geo-benchmarks-report/ • The State of AEO / GEO in 2026: The CMO Benchmark Report - https://www.conductor.com/academy/state-of-aeo-geo-report/ • Conductor Platform - https://www.conductor.com Sponsored by Moving Traffic MediaFollow the Page 2 PodcastPage 2 Podcast on YoutubePage 2 Podcast on LinkedinPage 2 Podcast on FacebookFollow Jon ClarkJon Clark on BlueskyJon Clark on Linkedin

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